Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

Nobody knows how it got there.

Que the guesses

 

How do you think it got there mate?

 

As stated by @londonboxingess and (verified by a quick google) Dianabol as a half life of 3-6 hours. If you’re only getting checked a handful of times throughout the 12 week camp...well, you can see there are opportunities to ingest this steroid and have it out of your system realistically ‘between doping tests’.

The very fact he was pulled in to have a hearing proves that there was in fact an issue regarding an irregularity in his sample. That’s the smoke that proves there was a fire, whether it’s a big fire or a tiny fire we’ll have to wait and see. However, there was a fire @Aydamn so it’s unfair of you to start slamming posters on this forum because we believe that he failed a test. You’re right that we know very little but there was definitely an irregularity with his sample and we have a right to speculate on whether he’s cheated.

As pointed out, there are ways to cheat the system such as short half life peds and masking agents. So it’s not unreasonable to say that a fighter can come up with a clean result one day, then a few days later (or even longer) come up with a failed test.

As boxing fans, we just want the truth. We don’t want these things brushed under the carpet and we want the relevant punishments dished out.

 

I am not one to speculate, however based on all of Dillians actions in the past 5 years, I cannot believe Whyte was cycling, given how vocal he was about VADA, not fighting joshua due to not enough time for VADA testing 18 weeks, signing up to volunatary VADA testing 24/7 365 days a a year for a price of 40 000 pounds a year from his own pocket, and because he has not even displayed many physical improvements that suggest he was on PEDs, he has instead improved technically as a fighter, and PEDs do not give you a better jab or better defensive guard.

He has a strong team around him with Loughboroug university, and he has been caught for something silly before by accident in a pre workout which was ONLY just banned, and Whyte didn't know it was banned but UKAD wanted to clamp down on pre workout supplements used in the boxing industry and used Whyte as a scapegoat, VADA did not detect anything at all ever, for the past 5 years, and UKAD picked very very small amounts so this does not strike me as someone caught redhanded, or someone who has been cycling for a while.

Someone who cycles has a weak mind, Dillian does not have a weak mind because he beat a very strong and tough fighter in Rivas when he had to go to a UKAD hearing on the same day, didnt sleep for 3 days prior to the fight, and he had a problem with his gloves which was not his fault.

How he won is a miracle, but that is proof of a very strong minded individual.

 

I want the truth just as much as you do, but I have to humble all these brain dead haters jumping the gun, treating this as a standard PED case and tarnishing Whyte before real information has been uncovered, when UKAD have already questioned Whyte through an independent panel and asked him for evidence for which he provided VADA reports and they seemed happy enough to let the fight continue, if he had no had the VADA evidence, this whole situation would be going south very quickly.

I am not denying VADA did pick up the metabolites, and it definitely needs explaining, and I completetely understand why everyone is suspicious, but here is a guy who has been on VADA for a long ass time, voluntarily, not just the standard WBC enforced one, and thus we have to take these actions into account.

Like I said, no one here suspected Whyte of PEDs, no one looked at his recent fights and said, wait man... something is off here with Whyte... nay they said the opposite, Whyte is slow, lethargic, fat, plodding, gassing etc...

But now, everyone is like "I knew it" give me a break.

Prior to Miller getting caught, many found it suspicious that he put on that much size, abnormal amounts, 320+ pounds, and was going 12 rounds without a single bother. That is alarming, Whyte has displayed no such alarming behaviour in his recent performances, and he would not have grinded so hard with the WBC voluntarily taking on difficult opposition to get a title shot to have thrown it all way with cycling PEDs when he was hard done by UKAD for a preworkout and banned for two years.

In a court of law, the evidence is strong in support of Whyte, than it could ever be for any other athelete embroiled in a PED case.

 

He has displayed physical improvements. He had a reputation for gassing late in fights, yet against Chisora and Rivas his gas tank was very good. He even got sparked in round 9, got up and bossed the rest of the fight. Until the last few fights people (including myself) questioned his power. He’s now got legitimate power that can bingo anyone.

You’re right, he has improved technically. You can implement a measured, controlled performance if you’re not blowing out your backside. So improved stamina can help a fighter greatly in navigating a difficult fight. Increased power wins you fights, that goes without saying.

I’m as fascinated as anyone else to see how all this pans out.

 

What plausible reasons are there other than he took it?

 

Well again PEDs don't give you a better chin, and I may be in the minority in this forum but I don't believe Whyte got sparked in the 9th, he got caught but he wasn't hurt enough to have caused him to go down, I believe he tripped over his own legs as he confessed himself, otherwise known as the epiliptic shuffle that Whyte is known for, and has displayed in every fight to day, he has footwork problems and this is what caused him to fall down.

So I dont believe he was sparked.

 

Given everything I've read so far on people bashing Whyte, and speculating out of there arses, I won't be answering your loaded question.

If Whyte gets cleared I ain't discussing this again. If they ban him for legitimate peds use, and Whyte confessed, then I will condemn him fully.

I am waiting for more information, I believe he will be cleared, and I'll move on and leave the bashing to you guys and speculating about where the Dianabol came from.

 

I’d say no. I’d say we’re waiting for a carefully worded statement from all parties that says he had some stuff in his system, he doesn’t know how and it weren’t enough to affect his performance and that’s why they allowed the fight to go on.

Which of course will be BS.

 

That's not a loaded question. Learn what a loaded question is.

Unless you think a boxer intentionally taking PEDs is implausible.

 

Sparked was an over exaggeration admittedly, but he was hurt. He got caught flush with an uppercut because of his footwork and went over. He was definitely not all there for a minute, he looked vacant. Rivas knew he was hurt and tried to go in for the finish. Whyte weathered the storm very well and regained control in round 10.

 

Nah I called your bluff, it was a loaded question - you wanted me to deliver the answer that is on your mind, but like I said, you speculate all you want I am sure you think he cycles to work.

 

Ok, so you don't know what "calling your bluff" means either.

 

Well every punch hurts and he was caught clean, but like he said, had he not crossed his legs I don't believe that uppercut would have made him fall.

He was hurt against Parker, and nobody contests that, not even superfan Aydamn.

Whyte has a tough week leading up to that fight, Rivas was game, strong and in prime condition he is no joke. And Whyte was in a world of mess mentally, how he got through that fight is miraculous,