Dillian Whyte tests positive for banned substance

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by wallworkjake123, Nov 6, 2012.


Is Dillian is innocent?

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  2. No

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  3. Who Cares?

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  1. mgmark7

    mgmark7 Active Member Full Member

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    "Detection in body fluids[edit]
    Metandienone is subject to extensive hepatic biotransformation by a variety of enzymatic pathways. The primary urinary metabolites are detectable for up to 3 days, and a recently discovered hydroxymethyl metabolite is found in urine for up to 19 days after a single 5 mg oral dose.[19] Several of the metabolites are unique to metandienone. Methods for detection in urine specimens usually involve gas chromatography-mass spectrometry.[20][21"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metandienone#Detection_in_body_fluids
     
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  2. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like i said its an old drug and its Russian Roulette with testers......I cannot believe any so called top sportsman would use it
     
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  3. Max Thunder

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    Those Loughsborough university guys must have been really confident in their PED masking capabilities for Diana "Bol Snatcher" Whyte to say that the chance to get caught was one in a million. Needs to go back training in his garage immediately.

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  4. londonboxingess

    londonboxingess Active Member Full Member

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    Most of the uni boys probably use it, a know a few now pro rugby players(and plenty that faileD) that went Twickenham uni system that were juicing to the gils.
     
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  5. boxberry92

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    This is the exact point that is being swept under the carpet especially by Eddie Hearn in his recent interviews.

    Hearn is acting like Whyte has taken a Placebo and is playing on the casual's lack of knowledge of PED's.

    Dinabol was the steroid of choice for athletes in the 80's before they graduated to Stanozolol which was undetectable at the time.

    As other's have mentioned I'd love to know where you can purchase a supplement containing Dinabol over the counter.

    On the other hand if Whyte obtained a TUE for a product that contains trace elements of Dinabol, how is that playing on a level playing field ?
     
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  6. Little brian

    Little brian Active Member Full Member

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    Probably mate.

    Maybe galahads brother at it again?..
     
  7. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've taken Dbol. It's mega. Makes you feel like a combination of Tommy in Goodfellas and Peter Stringfellow.

    It's proper old-school as noted, I was putting on a 1lb per few days in water on the stuff.
     
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  8. mgmark7

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    Yes, this is what gets me. Why use these old school drugs knowing you are going to get random testing done? Also, he is training at Loughborough, a top sports science centre. It is possible that there have been cross-contamination at the testing centre. I wonder whether the B sample will be tested at the same lab?

    Would VADA, whose tests did not return any adverse results apparently, have B samples as well that can be tested?
    Assuming the VADA testing was happening in the same time frame as the UKAD testing and uses the same standard tests the UKAD test might have been a false positive.

    "To put it another way, if the A and B samples both test positive for the same substance, there's very, very little chance that it's the result of anything other than something that is actually in the sample. At this point, the question becomes somewhat different - are the markers that the test looks for conclusive proof that a banned substance has been used? If they're not, they shouldn't be used in tests that can break someone's career."

    https://scienceblogs.com/authority/2008/08/08/how-likely-are-doping-test-fal
     
  9. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're doing some epic mental gymnastics there. If he's tested + for dbol, he's tested + for dbol. Forget about "cross-contamination", UKAD vs VADA or other Eddie-tier sleights of hand.

    Apply Occam's Razor. Whyte had been caught before. He was in a HW fight with a guy who was clearly using himself. He's been popped.

    Nice of you to be so concerned about his career. I'm sure he gives a toss about yours as well while he's in Antigua sipping cocktails and you're driving in the bumper to bumper on a cold November morning.
     
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  10. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everyone, everywhere, is juicing these days. I stopped playing 6-a side in a league last year because the leagues were getting filled with juice heads. Last night I was DJing and they were all over the dancefloor, unnatural sizes all over the show. It's not just a problem in boxing, it's a problem with society.
     
  11. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldnt call it a problem....Why not do it?

    The problem comes when 250lb heavyweight fighters are doing it...

    The stick Canelo got for Clen was outrageous imo...Dbol is a million miles worse than Clen
     
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  12. londonboxingess

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    People keep saying why is he taking, Dinabol, he might not be taking dinabol as such and will be taking a cocktail of drugs or a couple of compounds, just because he tested for dinabol doesn't mean he is taking just pure dinabol tabs. Also loads of roids are sold as other roids, anavar is a more expensive cutting steroid but often sold as a cheap roid(can't remember off the top of my head)
     
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  13. goosegoose

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    Doesn't matter what vada says. He still tested positive. If the B side is positive he can't just say whatever vada cleared me you cant take away my boxing license.


    As for WBC I have no idea if they can make it a no contest or not. It wasn't whytes duty to inform of an A sample failure.

    But for those saying it won't matter if the B side is positive because of vada.. if he applies for a boxing license they see he tested for something he shouldn't have in his system he can't say well it passed with vada. He'd still be declined.

    This is if the B sample is positive..if it's negative that's a whole other thing.
     
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  14. 305th

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    It is massive now, excuse the pun. Back in the day (late 90's to mid 2000s) the only way you could get "juice" was in the local shady gym from a big trousered bloke with veins.

    Now, you can order all kinds of mad designer steroids that are far, far stronger than good old fashioned test and dbol. Also, despite much wailing and virtue signaling from the BBC to the contrary, looks and aesthetics have NEVER been so pivotal. Look at Love Island, all of them are model-tier.
     
  15. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    winstrol
     
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