Is Usyk's run of wins the most impressive in today's boxing?

So by that logic Usyk will never be able to catch up to Mikey? I mean, after moving to heavyweight and, hypothetically, doing good there, where should he go next..? Back down?

 

Schwartz, Canningham and Seferi are very impressive.

 

Definitely, their records speak for themselves. Fury was knocked down by the hard hitting Cunningham and miraculously got up to beat him by TKO

Usyk would never have survived Cunningham

 

Seferi would KO Usyk in first. Usyk never fought anybody that big, strong and crafty.

 

Because it rarely happens these days.

 

Fully agreed, hail hydra, I mean hail Fury

 

no, thats the whole problem, nobody wants to put each point into its proper context. if usyk was to unify hw, he would no doubt be much higher p4p than mikey. by itself, its harder to move up to heavy than any other division, but its not harder than moving up 4 divisions.
once usyk has an actual fight at heavy, we can then put that in its proper context and insert it into the current debate. right now, usyk is a very skilled one division champion. mikey is a very skilled 4 division champion.

 

Your arguments do make sense logically when you point out that Garcia has moved up in weight and fought top fighters of those divisions, but judging a fighter requires more than just going of their ranking in their respective weight division.

I suppose it comes down to if you think Usyk's opponents bring more to the table than Garcia's do, or vice versa. Regardless of rankings or belts owned, I think Gassiev, Breidis, Bellew, Hunter, Glowacki, Mchunu and an old Huck are a tougher and more diverse challenge than Easter Jr, Lipinets, Broner, Zlaticanin, Burgos, Martinez and Salido.

 

i agree, thats why i posted the win/loss ratio for all the fighters involved. its pretty even. the difference for me is that usyk has fought his most highly rated guys from a pool of top 4 in 1 division, while mikey has fought top 4 guys from 4 different divisions, thats a much bigger pool of talent to find a spoiler. and he lost fewer rds and was much more dominant than usyk was. usyk is probably more fun to watch for most people, hes more of a showman, but mikey is more surgical.

 

The most impressive thing is that he went in their backyards to beat them!!! massive balls

 

What do you mean? Briedis gave Usyk a close fight and Hunter posed many problems as well. Hunter has gone on to prove himself at least a contender at Heavyweight while Briedis is dominating top 10 competition at CW.

 

not completely sure what youre driving at, but i will guess and counter with... salido went on to run a tight race with the current best boxer in the world, and lipinets is undefeated at welter with a tko over a former champ at welter... and none of those guys have really given mikey a close fight.

 

You pointed out that regardless of the opinion of who won between Loma and Salido that he ran a p4p fighter close in a fight. I don't know if this is how you meant it but I assumed you meant that Salido's status a a fighter is based off of having a close fight with a p4p fighter. Meanwhile brushing aside Briedis who did the same thing. Hunter, who gave a p4p fighter problems, has gone on to have plenty of successful at HW which you admitted said was the hardest division to step up to.

 

no. you made the argument that breidis is quality because he gave usyk a tough fight, so i countered with salido giving the best fighter in the world a more than tough fight. does that make saldido quality? no? then why does it make breidis quality then?
you then pointed to hunter(whoever that is) gave usyk a tough fight, and had success a division up, so that proves he is quality. so i countered with lipinets, who is having success a weight above, does that prove lipinets is quality? no? then why does it make hunter quality? then i pointed out that neither the guy who beat the best boxer in the world, nor the guy tkoing ex champs a weight above, were able to give mikey a tough fight.
i didnt even point out the circular logic you are employing. claiming usyk is great, and the fact that briedis gave him a good fight, proves briedis is seriously talented. so if he is seriously talented, and usyk beat him, then that proves usyk is p4p. so briedis who you already established is quality because he gave p4p usyk a tough fight, proves the division is stacked.

 

I mentioned Briedis in response to your Salido comment. I think you're confused.