HWs 11-20?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Any contenders stick out? Ten I've considered for my list are

    Ken Norton
    Riddick Bowe
    Jack Dempsey
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Mike Tyson
    Ezzard Charles
    Riddick Bowe
    Vitali Klitschko
    Chris Byrd
    Floyd Patterson
     
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  2. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    I'm BEGGING you to put Dempsey in your top 10

    Please
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

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    Nah. There's no one in my top 10 I'd take out for Dempsey. And I'm not even sure there's room for Marciano
     
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  4. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Marciano is the only undefeated heavyweight champion despite having the shortest reach ever and starting at 25

    That alone is top 10
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Are you basing your list on "greatness"/accomplishments or your assessment of their h2h abilities?
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    Not really. Résumé comes into it. Rocky doesn't do well there. Dempsey does even worse.

    Its an exclusive list that looks like this as of now (brackets is H2H place), but it's most likely going to change.

    1. Muhammad Ali (5)
    2. Joe Louis (10)
    3. Lennox Lewis (1)
    4. George Foreman (2)
    5. Larry Holmes (8)
    6. Wladimir Klitschko (7)
    7. Joe Frazier (9)
    8. Sonny Liston (3)
    9. Evander Holyfield (11)
    10. Jack Johnson (N/A)
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

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    Greatness, I have a separate list for H2H abilities
     
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Why is Foreman and Liston above Ali
     
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  10. George Crowcroft

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    Because I think they beat more people than Ali
    For example I pick both over Wladimir Klitschko who I pick over Ali
    I pick Liston over Lewis, who I pick over everyone else.
    Ali is one of 3 people I think beat Liston and 2 I think beat Foreman

    Ali whilst beating both, doesn't beat as many people as they do.
    A slugger who's a top 3 power at HW with a cast iron chin and great ring cutting off skills.
    And after Ali he was at his worse, the one who pummeled Fraizer eats Young up and spits him back out.
     
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  11. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    I thought Ali was the clear top dog between Foreman, Frazier and himself, considering he was the only one to beat both
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    What? I can say I thought Max Schmeling was the clear top dog between Mickey Walker and Joe Louis, considering he was the only man to beat both.

    It's pretty irrelevant to the point.
     
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  13. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Invalid comparison since Walker never fought Louis but ok

    Do remember Ali wasn't even prime when he dismantled Foreman
     
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  14. George Crowcroft

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    Fine. I can say that Loughran was the best out of Braddock, Baer and himself because he was the only 1 to beat both
     
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  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    That might actually be a fair call, joking aside

    Of course Baer was goofing off in that fight but still
     
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