Fighters Who Are Bad People

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No I separate the two ,I judge solely on ability , what a fighter is like as a man is incidental and should not be factored into his standing as a fighter.
     
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  2. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He beat his wife up several times, causing her to miscarriage more than once.
     
    Tonto62, Jul 29, 2019
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  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When you say this, are you referring to your rating of him as a fighter, or conversely are you referring to your actual admiration of this fighter? Are you a "fan" in other words, is what I'm getting at.
     
    salsanchezfan, Jul 29, 2019
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Key distinction. I can admire these guys as fighters and even enjoy watching their fights, but I'll never be a fan of a piece-of-**** who batters, rapes, or murders women. Just how I was raised, I guess.
     
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  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's a HUGE distinction.
     
    salsanchezfan, Jul 29, 2019
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  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DeJesus murdered a guy over a road rage dispute. Fair to say he was no angel, even though he was likely high as a kite when he did it.

    But the biggest pieces of **** boxers have all been mentioned already: Ayala, Monzon, Butler, Valero, Lamotta, ect.
     
    Xplosive, Jul 29, 2019
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  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Theres a distinction to be made here between crazy and evil.

    Ibeabuchi was bat **** crazy (and dangerous).

    Whereas Monzon it appears was an evil sociopath.
     
    Xplosive, Jul 29, 2019
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yeah, good point. Ibeabuchi was mentally ill. Berbick too, probably.
     
    mrkoolkevin, Jul 29, 2019
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  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting point, though one could well argue Monzon's mental instability.
     
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  10. 88Chris05

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    Charles Kid McCoy needs a mention here. Had seven wives, the last of which he murdered, and lied to Tommy Ryan that he was dying and needed a fight to pay the doctor's bills in order to manipulate him in to giving him a Middleweight title shot (Ryan barely prepared and resultingly got knocked out). Apparently involved in many fixed fights (including against James J. Corbett) and committed suicide after his release from prison for the murder of his last wife.

    Paul Spadafora seems to be a pretty nasty piece of work, too.
     
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  11. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quite a few have done awful things outside the ring, bur as far as inside the ring James Butler sucker punching that guy Richard Grant i think his name was was just sicking to watch especially considering Grant thought he was coming over to give him a hug.
     
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  12. The Morlocks

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    Why, yr Sugar Ray Leonard fits this bill perfectly. Doper wife beater children he had nothing to do with. Lying garbage ***** manipularive weasel.
     
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  13. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why Emile Griffith?
     
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  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I think he's making a gay joke.
     
    roughdiamond, Jul 29, 2019
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  15. red cobra

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    Thing is, Butler is still alive...I think he's worse than Monzon...as a person of course...we aren't discussing these guy's fistic worth. Butler was a POS IN the ring as well as out.
     
    red cobra, Jul 29, 2019
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