Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kratos, Jul 24, 2019.


Do you think Whyte deliberately took a PED?

  1. Yes

    173 vote(s)
    67.8%

  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    13.7%

  3. Maybe

    29 vote(s)
    11.4%

  4. Who Cares?

    18 vote(s)
    7.1%
Page 83 of 134
  1. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

    11,844
    15,620
    Nov 9, 2015

    Well he's thrown Whyte under the bus too. No chance of implying to the public the failed test was a result of a supplement taken just prior to the fight when all the prep had been done. Five week's ago is slap bang in the middle of his training camp....
     
    DoubleJab666, Jul 31, 2019
    DoubleJab666, Jul 31, 2019
    #1231
  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    92,600
    27,279
    Jan 18, 2010
    The trace amounts thing doesn't even need mention if it's a substance that shouldn't be in your body at all.
    Usually athletes busted for doping are caught on trace amounts, as it rarely happens they injected on the same day they got tested, and didn't do anything to mask or flush it. Some substances are allowed in very low amounts, but the majority aren't.
     
    Robney, Jul 31, 2019
    Robney, Jul 31, 2019
    #1232
    Sphillips, Ph33rknot and CST80 like this.
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

    25,314
    16,182
    Apr 3, 2012
    Whyte will try to fight in Moscow. That’s what.
     
    NoNeck, Jul 31, 2019
    NoNeck, Jul 31, 2019
    #1233
    George Crowcroft likes this.
  4. Rikicortz

    Rikicortz Active Member banned Full Member

    576
    539
    Jul 19, 2019
    This content is protected
     
    Rikicortz, Jul 31, 2019
    Rikicortz, Jul 31, 2019
    #1234
    eltirado likes this.
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,428
    1,683
    Nov 20, 2007
    Was he a Red Army sleeping agent all along? Explains his Russian accent.
     
    BigBone, Jul 31, 2019
    BigBone, Jul 31, 2019
    #1235
    Oneirokritis and George Crowcroft like this.
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    60,304
    22,437
    Jul 21, 2012
    This content is protected
     
    dinovelvet, Jul 31, 2019
    dinovelvet, Jul 31, 2019
    #1236
    CST80 likes this.
  7. Rikicortz

    Rikicortz Active Member banned Full Member

    576
    539
    Jul 19, 2019
    This content is protected


    This content is protected


    This content is protected


    So this guy Sav has picked it up from Steve Bunces Boxing podcast, and Buncey replied and said good enough for me.

    Eddie Hearn did keep saying that Hauser's article was not fully accurate regarding the actual substances, so maybe it wasn't Dianabol and was actually a listed substance and not prohibited and that's why the panel cleared him? Only time will tell.

    edit: It was actually Mike 'Magic Man' Costello on the podcast who looked at the regulations on the UKAD website and deduced that the holding of an immediate hearing suggested that they were talking listed, not prohibited substance. credit to @Holler
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2019
    Rikicortz, Jul 31, 2019
    Rikicortz, Jul 31, 2019
    #1237
    Potato80 likes this.
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    112,175
    46,380
    Mar 21, 2007
    Well the procedure seems to have been followed. As long as the fighters are advised of the procedure OR the procedure if publicly available, nobody is successfully suing anybody, even if it's bull**** (unless it can be proven to be illegal). Combat sports in Britain are heavily protected in law, which is mostly quite nice, but not today...

    The B sample, it's true that guys being cleared on the B are rare, but it has happened. I think the B thing is OK given the consequences.

    The way the whole hearing thing went down, I'd suggest that Whyte has a good "it was an accident!" case.

    The thing I don't understand is the delay. When is the B sample going to be read? From what I can pick up, the B sample thing is driven by the subject, by Whyte. So what's the delay? He should be rabid trying to get that done and he should be telling us when even if he isn't doing it right now. Anyone? Anyone heard anything?
     
    McGrain, Jul 31, 2019
    McGrain, Jul 31, 2019
    #1238
    Sphillips and BigBone like this.
  9. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,160
    4,165
    Jul 18, 2015
    Eddie Hearn gave a big interview on IFL today about it.

    I get the feeling that Whyte will be cleared.
    Hes not technically banned by anyone, the UKAD board which is a govt body deemed him fight to fight....VADA found nothing.

    I dunno, maybe I'm wrong but I feel this isn't as severe as some are making it out
     
    Limerickbox, Jul 31, 2019
    Limerickbox, Jul 31, 2019
    #1239
    Aydamn and George Crowcroft like this.
  10. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,941
    3,828
    Apr 28, 2018
    He's still getting rolled by the WBC regardless.

    Steve "Porky Pig" Bunce is a hard shill related to anything UK boxing wise. So I'd take what he says with a shovel full of salt.
     
    305th, Jul 31, 2019
    305th, Jul 31, 2019
    #1240
    NoNeck, Potato80 and George Crowcroft like this.
  11. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

    10,980
    6,711
    Aug 7, 2010
    If true thats good news for Whyte and British Boxing. If not and it turns out to be a real pedding incident then he should be banned and UKAD and the BBoC need to look into their practices. But if he is cleared of any wrong doing what are the chances the WBC still get a bit tricky about un-suspending him from the mando spot? I just have a feeling.
     
    Ukansodoff, Jul 31, 2019
    Ukansodoff, Jul 31, 2019
    #1241
  12. The Senator

    The Senator Active Member Full Member

    570
    856
    Dec 10, 2017
    I'm hoping that's the case. Whyte's a good fighter to have mixing it up with the better names in the division, and it's just plain better for boxing to clear a doping case like this, if possible.

    One thing's for sure, though, if confirmed, Aydamn will be as smug as Floyd Mayweather swimming in a pool full of $100 bills, and really, I'll not blame him.
     
    The Senator, Jul 31, 2019
    The Senator, Jul 31, 2019
    #1242
    Potato80, Oreet Cha!, BitPlayerVesti and 2 others like this.
  13. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    28,435
    17,730
    Jul 19, 2004
    This doesn’t even make sense . How do you fail a test for something that is not prohibited? Why would they text for this?

    Just doesn’t add up.
     
    lobk, Jul 31, 2019
    lobk, Jul 31, 2019
    #1243
  14. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

    13,009
    24,776
    Mar 12, 2018
    It's not Bunce, who for all his enthusiasm. isn't the sharpest tool in the box, but mike Costello on the podcast who looked at the regulations on the U.K. ad website and deduced that the holding of an immediate hearing suggested that they were talking listed not prohibited.

    It made a lot of sense, but it was the sort of interesting detail that didn't sit well with the prevailing winds here and elsewhere online as it didn't pay well with the preferred narrative.
     
    Holler, Jul 31, 2019
    Holler, Jul 31, 2019
    #1244
  15. Rikicortz

    Rikicortz Active Member banned Full Member

    576
    539
    Jul 19, 2019
    Thanks, I wasn't bothered to listen to the full podcast lol, added this info onto the OP
     
    Rikicortz, Jul 31, 2019
    Rikicortz, Jul 31, 2019
    #1245
Page 83 of 134