Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kratos, Jul 24, 2019.

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Do you think Whyte deliberately took a PED?

  1. Yes

    173 vote(s)
    67.8%
  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. Maybe

    29 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Who Cares?

    18 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I actually won't, this has been a shock to all of us, and somewhat distressing for me. I just want to move forward, and see Whyte in good fights, and get that WBC title shot, that is all I care about.

    It's not about looking smug, I just want to see good fights get made, by hard working athletes.
     
  2. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The WBC are corrupt and have different standards for different fighters. If this was Canelo, they'd play it completely differently.
     
  3. Special one

    Special one Active Member Full Member

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    This, if true will certainly silence a few over excited Wilder fan boys on here!!! Hopefully they fight once all this has been cleared up!!
     
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    Special one Active Member Full Member

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    Yep, WBC will look even more of a farce if Whyte gets exonorated! Even moreso when you compare it to Canelos situation!! Tbh I hope Whyte wins that belt and immediately throws it in the bin!! Lol
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Must be something that does improve performances with enough of it. I don't know it is strange

    I hope it's true tho, as it makes British Boxing look better and Whyte as well.
     
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  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    They only test for ban substances. The test comes back positive if ig matches.

    They are on damage control right now. If this was a non issue they would have come out and said something.
     
  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No surprises that the WBC nexted Dyllian off, they are clearly very very afraid that he knocks Wilder out and takes the belt back to London.

    Lets see how this develops. The fact Dyllian has allegedly failed a test isnt a big deal to me, these things happen in boxing.

    I hope he atleast gets a shot at a world title again
     
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  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    There is no allegedly. This is his 2nd time failing a drug test. His promoter , manager, and himself have not once denied this. The only thing left is disclose what the substance he tested hot for.
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    My understanding - from listening to the same podcast - is the distinction between 'prohibited' and 'specified' impacted in only one way and was directly linked to the low levels found in the sample. 'Prohibited' would have resulted in an immediate ban disbarring him from fighting Rivas and 'specified' meant any sanctions against Whyte would be deferred until the whole process was complete.

    As far as I can tell these two terms do not relate to what was in the system, but how it likely got there based on the amount found in the sample. Either slam dunk intentionally (prohibited) or open to question (specified)....
     
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  10. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    So we need sources for all other information but with this we accept some guy on a podcast as truth? Seems legit...
     
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  11. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haha spot on.
     
  12. Rikicortz

    Rikicortz Active Member banned Full Member

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    [url]https://www.ukad.org.uk/violations/whats-banned-sport-prohibited-list[/url]

    This is from the UKAD website on substances:

    "Specified substances are those that, if found to be present in an athlete’s bodily sample, may be more likely to have a credible, non-doping explanation."

    So maybe that's why they had a hearing and Team Whyte gave a credible explanation and then they cleared him.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Lol at using a second hand account of Steve Bunce’s words as a source.
     
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  14. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    That makes sense and fits in with how I interpreted what was said on the podcast: that a substance was detected but not to the level which would also establish doping - to prove doping surely they also have to establish intent to dope. But I don't think they can case-closed clear him based on a hastily-arranged pre-fight meeting. And as Hearn carefully stated 'he was cleared to fight' not cleared....
     
  15. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    And hasn't Whyte asked for the B Sample to be tested? Why do that if everything is concluded? I'm not claiming certainty over this by any means, just posing the question. The whole procedure is as clear as mud lol