Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kratos, Jul 24, 2019.


Do you think Whyte deliberately took a PED?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. Maybe

    29 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Who Cares?

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  1. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The problem is that however the B sample comes back, it's results are confidential between UKAD, Whyte and the BBBoC. Whyte has apparently been advised not to say anything as legal proceedings may be happening and his team want the best chance to clear his name. It's almost immaterial how the B comes back if there was exonerating evidence for the A sample.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Which underlines the problem of the people who stand to lose the most holding the cards.

    However, the B sample isn't going to be far from anyone's mind or lips in their dealings with Whyte. Media will be relentless; potential opponents will be very curious. Most of all, if the B sample is dirty, the BBBC won't licence him.

    At some point, the B sample will have to be opened. The longer it runs the more likely it is that Whyte knows the B sample will not exonerate him. And it is impossible for him to appear before media without this question being answered.
     
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  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Really you're quoting someone from seven days ago, during which a massive amount of information has come to light which would naturally colour-in many of the grey areas which were being discussed at the time and were minute-by-minute reactions to evolving events? And as far as I can work out, this is your first intervention. And it took you a week. GTFOH...
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i thought his hearing was with UKAD. I wouldn’t consider that independent.

    It is certainly possible to test clean on Monday, ingest something on Tuesday, pop dirty two days later and clean (after flushing more) the day after that.

    Someone give me a reasonable explanation of how he got anabolic steroids in his system that doesn’t involve doping. Didn’t come from an uncastrated boar intestine.

    UKAD should change its name to SHADYAF.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't have to be banned for the fight to be stopped, duh. And the whole process UKAD uses is whacked and is not according to WADA Code. Anyone arguing that UKAD is doing it right has a clear agenda. What good is anti-doping if it systematically allows suspected fighters to go thru with said fight??????
     
  6. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    It appears UKAD (SHADYAF) only consider it doping when they believe it was intentionally ingested and a trace amount. And to a great extent they take into account the amount of PEDs detected to determine this. So if an athlete is caught with a trace amount and persuades them it got into his body without his knowledge, that isn't considered 'doping', although it's still a fail. I think the substance which triggered the fail is relevant too and, as of now, it seems Hauser might have been wide of the mark when he identified metabolites of Dianabol as the reason for a positive test.

    Sounds like a cheater's charter to me, especially as the process has very little or no transparency....
     
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  7. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    **** Whyte. Stop investigating strip and ban him NOW
     
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  8. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte should seek a fight (after his Ban) with Big Fat Baby Roids Miller in his next fight billed as the "Battle of the Fat Juicers"
     
  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As far as I know, Dianabol is a no tolerance substance, so any trace amount or metabolite means violation of anti-doing programme, even 0,00002%. So if the A sample is dirty and the B sample is dirty, there's just no way a zero tolerance drug violation can be dismissed by the BBBoC. Or I am missing something in the procedure.
     
  10. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then Joshua's human punch bag won't fight again.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Weird things can happen. Remember how Charr's lawyers weren't present during the unsealing of the B sample and thus the entire drug sample was ruled invalid and Charr went scot-free.
     
  12. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm on holiday in Italy and this was the first chance I got to read the board.
     
  13. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The BBBOC will clear Whyte if UKAD do. They follow whatever UKAD do. So if UKAD sanction him he'll cop a ban, if not, he won't.
     
  14. granth

    granth Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It hasn't been verified what he failed for. In Hearns interview with IFL yesterday, he alludes to the fact that not all of the story is accurate. So really we don't know yet.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    So, people are suggesting it wasn't Dianabol now ?
    What was it then ?