Did Juan Manuel Márquez win the war with Manny Pacquiao?

Yes!

 

Thinking it's arguable? Cool. Thinking it's pretty much a fact? Now that's just stupid.

 

Interesting your cosigning a natural LW beating a guy who won the Flyweight title at 147 pounds. And Pac was 6 years past his prime. And this makes him better p4p? I'm assuming you mean better p4p?

I feel like we have been over this before the idea of being better H2H versus being better p4p.

And you have been unable to refute my point of Pacquiao being better p4p. Mayweather is better than Pacquiao H2H. There I said it. Cat is out the box so to speak. And....... well so what?

Does Hopkins beat Mayweather? Is water wet?

 

Yea like Ray Leonard "no mas" knockout of Duran erases Durans win over Leonard?

Funny, this make believe stuff only happens to matter with Pac.

 

Skill does not determine greatness. Resume and accomplishments do. If skill is all that matters then Toney is greater than Jones Jr. And Barrera is greater than Pacquiao.

 

If it wasnt for Pacquiao Marquez would be working for the Mexican government as a public accountant and getting outboxed for pennies by Chris John.

 

na Duran took that win pac never won against may

 

He beat Marquez twice.

 

There's a reason that Pacquiao and Floyd, and not Marquez, are unanimously named as the very best of this era.

There's a reason why Pacquiao and Floyd are constantly being pitted against the Fab Four, but Marquez is never a part of that conversation.

It's because Marquez was the worst possible stylistic matchup for Pacquiao and no one really believes Marquez got the KO without using enough steroids to power all of Major League Baseball during the peak of the steroids era.

 

he had * wins never won legit Duran won legit

 

Pacquiao didnt fight dirty or cheat. He won fair and square twice. So its legit

 

not sure about that that's before any test

 

He didnt pay off the judges, he didnt load gloves, he didnt low blow, etc.

He fought within the rules of boxing. And won.

Therefore, legitimate victories.

 

that's what you think

 

What are you suggesting? That Pacquiao bribed the judges or loaded his gloves with plaster?