Max Kellerman: Manny Pacquiao Is Possibly The GOAT (!!!)

course you can,who gives a **** about having that zero?all the greatest have lost to someone,doesn't tarnish their record.

 

He's a ****ing idiot if he thinks pac is the goat and is better than SRR Armstrong ali greb or Langford a ****ing idiot. Pac has been koed by a no hoper was dominated by pbf and lost to a faded erik morales and other loses. He's not even the best of the era let alone the GOAT.

 

A flat out lie. Pac turned down and ducked pbf because of testing are you going to act like that didnt happen?

 

It was because of WHEN Floyd wanted testing. Right before the fight. Pac knew a blood test that soon before would affect his energy level.

And why did Floyd demand all this strict testing just to USE AN ILLEGAL IV??? Kind of ****ed up don’t you think?! Or are we just gonna forget about that??

 

So Marquez has a ko win over the "Goat"??

 

Loses matter he had bad loses. You cant simply wish them away because you like the guy. People like pac so they try and give him more credit than he rightfully deserves. Like i said earlier if pbf had pacs exact record and resume and lost h2h to pac easily and pac had pbfs exact resume and record. Would people say pbf was the GOAT with a 62-7-2 record??? **** no they wouldn't. People like pac do they overlook too much stuff.

 

People seem to forget Pacquiao fought Morales and Barrera after they had those brutal wars imo they were already war torn, same when he beat Larios, Larios was coming from the Vasquez wars, David Diaz?? Weakest champ ever, Fought Cotto when he was coming from a brutal assault from Margo, Fought Hatton when he was coming from the Mayweather beating and don't forget all those catch weight fights, imo Pacquiao is a bit overrated

 

Stop with the damn excuses he didnt want random blood testing with no cuttoffs. He pulled out of negotiations with pbf because of it. Pbf agreed to the terms pac didnt those are facts. Once again people like pac more so they give him a pass. If it was pac who agreed to testing and pbf refused he would have been run out of the sport back then. The double standards are too much. You're giving the guy you like more the benefit of the doubt that's bull**** and is not an accurate account of what happened back then. Pac ducked pbf because of testing you might not like it but that's irrelevant when discussing the truth.

 

Pac is great, no doubt, but is far from the "GOAT". His 8 div resume can be considered the GOAT accomplishment but it's full of smoke and mirrors. Between Floyd and Pac, Floyd has a better claim at being the GOAT(although he's not in my book).

 

Yeah you can play that game with the rest of that list, though. Armstrong lost to the Croatian/Slovenian version of Salido, SRR got beat by an onion farmer, Langford got hospitalized by a large glass chinned hillbilly, etc.

Go round and round like that long enough and nobody looks good. Lack of losses doesn't equal greatness nearly as much as what you win.

That is, unless you're consistent and your top list is looking like Floyd, Calzaghe, Lopez, Marciano, Ward, and nothing but other unbeaten fighters.

 

Pretty good discussion here. Worth a watch! Even Smith, who is a Floyd fan, had to admit it “Smells”

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8 world titles

 

And for the record their is no “GOAT” in boxing. Many Different eras with too many elite level fighters. Maybe a top 10 in no order but to pick a GOAT... really hard to do in my opinion. Manny might be in that top 10.

 

Bad loses hurt your legacy if pac had lost 2x 1 early and lost to pbf you might have a case but he has too many bad loses anf needed too many fights with jmm.

 

Floyd's resume isn't as good as it could have been, that's for sure.