What were Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.’s flaws as a boxer, if he even had any?

Wait, you think Chavez would beat Duran?

LOL.

 

Duran was three weight classes above his best and past his prime against Benitez while the latter was square at his peak at 154, there aren't too many parallels between him and Pea in terms of how a fight with a peak Duran would go. Duran's closing footspeed was gone by this point and his hand speed, defensive reflexes and motivation were also declining. I can't see a fight between him and Whitaker being anything but close whatever way the decision goes.

If you mean that 5 rounds is the approximate minimum that you'd give Chavez against Pea, I'd question your eyesight tbh, all due respect and not meant in malice. It's a absolute stretch that he won 5 rounds maximum, never mind minimum. I had it 9-3 to Pea and don't see how JCC won more than 4 rounds top tbh. He was past his best but so was Whitaker. I've watched that fight 3 times and to my eye, Whitaker outclassed him.

 

Ain't no one but Whitaker Whitaker

 

At 135 it's a toss up

 

excuses excuses, Duran was good enough to beat moore and cuevas plus he beat barkley at 160. To say he was past it is just an excuse. Also, it's not like Benitez has a long reign at 154, this notion that he was this incredible fighter at 154 is just an excuse to make Duran look better

 

I'd like to hear exactly how Chavez beats Duran? A man who has him beat in virtually every facet that matters, and a man with by FAAARRRR the better resume of wins.

 

Don't talk shite. Camacho for crying out loud, are we bringing up Tszyu and Trinidad for Chavez and Whitaker?

 

I guess Tyson's legacy is diminished cause he couldn't get past Danny Williams...

 

LOl, Duran was not invincible at 135, At 135 Chavez gives anyone a firefight, including Duran!

 

Don't waste your time, Tin. He has no choice but to grasp for straws.

Duran beat the better fighters... by far. Duran had the more dominate prime, OVER better fighters. Duran was FAAARRRRR more accomplished past-prime. And Duran was better at virtually everything.

Duran has a CLEAN win over Ray Leonard.

Chavez needed Richard Steele to beat the homeless man's Ray Leonard.

 

If DeJesus could give Duran a firefight in two fights, there is no question in my mind that a superior and stronger fighter in Chavez could have given Duran a run for his money. A lot of Duran huggers want to apply what Duran did in higher weights to impact how well he would do here but they don't realize Duran dominated on mainly his pure physical attributes. Chavez was a different animal than anyone Duran faced at 135, and there is no way either guy dominates the other easily at that weight. To say otherwise shows complete lack of objective analysis

 

Duran barely beat Leonard because Leonard fought on the inside and did not use his actual style. The moment Leonard fought his fight Duran looked like a deer caught on headlights!

 

Moore was green as grass and played right into Duran's hands and Cuevas was finished ffs, it's got nothing to do with excuses. Neither man fought anything like Benitez nor were they in his class. He gave a brilliant albeit losing pure boxing performance against Hearns, hardly taking any punishment and utterly outclassed and one punched the very respectable Hope. He just burned out not long after as teenage prodigies who take punishment way before their bodies have matured are wont to do, which is part of why he didn't have a long reign.

Duran gave the performance of a lifetime against Barkley fighting more or less on muscle memory alone. No-one saw it coming. And again, Barkley was feck all like Benitez, he was a static target. Duran post-welter was occasionally able to go to the well what always seemed like one last time against the right opponent amidst a series of underwhelming performances typical of a man his age so far above his best weight. It speaks to what a remarkable and rare fighter he was and is part of the reason why he was both better and greater than Chavez, who is an atg.

 

It's insulting to Duran to say that he only won fights on his physical attributes, when he has a compelling case as THE most skilled fighter that ever lived. It's a weird argument really.

He has Chavez beat in talent, skill, and athleticism.

Duran was physically stronger, and a better infighter, which ALREADY means that Chavez is ****ed - since JCC largely depended on his strength and infighting ability.

Chavez also depended on his awesome stamina, and guess what? Duran has him beat there too!

Duran has him beat in outside boxing ability, in counterpunching, and in defense.

"Toss up" my ass!

 

Stopped reading the moment you said "barely" beat Leonard.

As if Montreal could have gone either way lol.

Duran won by a commanding margin.