Dillian Whyte PED Discussion: Guilty? Not Guilty? Who Cares?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kratos, Jul 24, 2019.


Do you think Whyte deliberately took a PED?

  1. Yes

    173 vote(s)
    67.8%
  2. No

    35 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. Maybe

    29 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Who Cares?

    18 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His brother got popped for weed. Not exactly a performance enhancer that could put an opponent’s life or health in danger. Completely different thing.

    And what your brother or my brother does have nothing to do with you or me. I’ve got close friends who have family members who have done bad things (a lot worse than smoking weed) but that doesn’t reflect on my friends.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You chat BS double standards,

    Wilder didnt take Whyte fight before because f the Joshua situation? Why dies that have to reflect on whyte???

    Weed does aid recovery and other attributes, same bracket as a pre workout jack3d that Whyte wad originally popped for back 2012

    You just make excuses
     
  3. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    I can’t believe people keep saying this. In this thread there’s been about 30 posts along these lines when a simple google search will tell you what Marsellos failed a drugs test for.
     
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  4. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    Weed does not aid recovery at all, in fact it’s definitely detrimental since it can cause a spike in cortisol and will also inhibit protein synthesis. The only tangible benefit is that it might make a user sleep longer. Alcohol consumption might to do the same thing, are you now going to tell us that alcohol aids recovery?
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    “Gordy Megroz of Outside conducted his own study after noting the number of athletes who credit marijuana use for increased performance and recovery.

    And however unscientific you deem his little self-experiment to be, he found that he performed better on the treadmill and was less sore after a heavy squat session.”

    I am sure if you sat down on some research youll find plenty of examples
     
  6. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    I will repeat their is no scientific evidence behind the argument that marijuana can aid recovery, and it is clearly NOT a performance enhancer. I’ve already specified the two scientific reasons why not and they override the one conceivable benefit of increased sleep. In support of your argument you’ve literally cited hear say which is embarrassing. I’m well aware of the many testimonies in support of marijuana and cannabis for medical and exercise purposes.
     
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  7. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dillian Whyte is a two time PED cheat currently facing down a lifetime ban. He got popped for a stimulant and then an anabolic steroid. You're defending his proven PED taking tooth and nail, but at the same time you're trying to condemn a weed smoker?!?!?!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    The lengths you will go to promote your pro two time PED cheat agenda is hilarious.
     
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  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Can someone post a link to a reputable source that actually confirms that Marsellos Wilder tested positive for cannabis? I'm not coming up with anything.
     
  9. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Just because there is no scientific evidence, doesn't mean it ain't scientifically true....

    Fact is many athletes have attested to the performance enhancing abilities of Marijuana, that fact might not sit well with you.... but guess what... it is still a fact, tomorrow it could be a scientifically proven one.

    And to back up my above statement, on the potential of Marijuana, feel free to review the USADA prohibited list and their reasoning on Marijuana.

    https://www.usada.org/substances/marijuana-faq/

    Now shove that up your arse real tight, until you absorb the information.
     
  10. CutThroatFade

    CutThroatFade Rangers FC Full Member

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    The Texas Department of Licencing and Regulation release info to World Boxing News about the failed test and WBN basically confirmed that it was marijuana without explicitly stating that. What they did say is that there was no PED involved. That combined with various journalists reporting the test result was for weed is enough for me.
     
  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Ohhhhh Davo..... do you get paid to be a dumbass? Or is it a hobby?

    The difference between you and me is that I spit the truth.... you just make **** up.

    Take the following website, print out the page, and slap your face with it repeatedly -

    https://www.usada.org/substances/marijuana-faq/

    And then when it is PROVEN that Whyte has been cleared by an INDEPENDENT PANEL, you can do the same thing with that information.
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    "A common perception of marijuana is that its use impairs physical activity, including exercise performance. While the effects of marijuana can decrease hand-eye coordination and distort spatial perception, there are other effects that can be performance enhancing for some athletes and sport disciplines. Cannabis can cause muscle relaxation and reduce pain during post-workout recovery. It can also decrease anxiety and tension, resulting in better sport performance under pressure. In addition, cannabis can increase focus and risk-taking behaviors, allowing athletes to forget bad falls or previous trauma in sport, and push themselves past those fears in competition."

    In before someone says USADA are a bunch of dumbasses, and they don't know jack ****... LOOOOOOOL

    Truth hurts people.
     
  13. CutThroatFade

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    You ****ing stone cold dosser. I swear you are the biggest tit on this forum.

    I’ve already mentioned that the only perceivable benefit of marijuana is the fact that it can help sleep (i.e. muscle relaxation cited on the USADA page).
    Throughout this thread and others over the last couple of weeks you’ve been arguing that Whyte failing his test for the Jack3D ingredient was a minor offence and now you are citing WADA information about weed being prohibited which regurgitates what I’ve already said here about sleep being the only tangible benefit.

    Just because it’s on WADA’s list does not mean that it’s performance enhancing, it just means it is a prohibited substance. WADA almost added viagra to their list of prohibited substances. Just because something is prohibited on WADA does not mean it’s truly performance enhancing and I’ve cited the scientific reasons above as to why any benefits of taking marijuana would be overridden by its negatives.

    Utter desperation when you are trawling the internet and making pathetic google searches to inform your futile arguments. You don’t know what you are talking about here. I don’t believe you actually train properly or box or partake in any sport so it doesn’t surprise me that you are trying to argue that weed is performance enhancing. Coffee is literally more performance enhancing.
     
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  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    That's the source people are using? Really?

    Come on, where's the reputable lowdown on this?
     
  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Awww butthurt babes? Because I proved you wrong again? For millionth time in your life?

    I always prove you wrong, get used to it.

    My argument: Weed enhances performance
    You are gument: No it doesn't

    USADA Joined the chat: While the effects of marijuana can decrease hand-eye coordination and distort spatial perception, there are other effects that can be performance enhancing for some athletes and sport disciplines.

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    Don't worry about me and my "Partaking" in sports, the people in my life now exactly how good I am, at any sport, including my coaches... I don't need a dosser like you to believe me.

    There's stuff I can do, that you can't even if you trained.