is Tyson Fury hiding a weakness?

Leave it by cherry picking my post "Brown" and cutting out words like Parker, Rivas, Chisora.

Real honest move there mate.

 

Why do I argue about Whyte all the time?

Because Whyte gets downplayed after fighting real competition.

Who would be Fury's Parker?

Who would be Fury's Rivas?

 

No, he was misquoted. He meant 3 fights this year. He set that straight in an interview with Phelps shortly after.

If you're interested, I'm pretty sure it's in this interview but i'm not going to check right now -

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I'll try and find it later, he was standing outside somewhere, and he was like "three fights on my contact left, then im out of here, gone, bye bye."

 

Yeah, I know the interview you mean. It was with Umar from IFL and Fury comes across very badly. Believe it was at the Saunders fight or perhaps the weigh in. The Phelps interview where he clarifies was after that - he meant 3 fights this year.

 

Yep that is the one I am talking about!

 

Yep - that's the one. Just to clarify then, the 3 fights comment was then cleared up in a subsequent interview.

 

Fair play, thank you for that clarification.

 

I know this forum has been filled up with all the Whyte stuff recently, so you may not remember.

But we were having an interesting discussion about the 'best' current heavyweight after Usyk said he believes it to be Fury.

You said you disagreed, but never said who you thought was if not Fury. I'm interested to know who you think is?

(Just for arguments sake, I'm taking about the question as in who you would back the most to beat the other top guys. I'm not talking about who takes the best or worst fights (such as this dreadful Wallin fight) but who is actually the best fighter in your opinion)

 

It is hard to say, because they are not open to fighting each other often enough to give an educated verdict.

In other era's and even in other sports disciplines like K-1, the champions fought each other several times, so you knew who was the better man overall.

If you ask me who is the most well rounded, pound for pound, out of the top 5 I would say Whyte.

Whyte has good amount of heart, boxing brain, durability, power, dedication, boxing ability, variety in his punches and arsenal.

Compared to that...

AJ has the crisper punchers and accuracy

Wilder has the faster hands and atheleticm

Fury... just relies on his reach and height a lot...he is good, and a nightmare stylistically for Whyte... but if they all fought each other multiple time, I would back Whyte to come off with the most wins. I made a grid of H2H with all of them including Ruiz, and Whyte gets the most wins, more often IMO.

Important to note, I base the above on the ability to win the fight, not boxing ability per se, because in HW it is not just about boxing, a lot of it is fighting too and making life physically difficult for the other guy.

 

Can talk about what weaknesses he may have, can talk about his opposition all people want, fact remains, he still has the best two names on his record out of all the HWs and he beat one and "beat" the other.

And if people haven't heard of Wallin, that's on them. Schwarz was a **** fight, this one is decent, especially considering Wilder is next

 

Do tell us more about Wallin, please raise some awareness.

The stage is yours.

 

I educate you enough, use google this time

 

Thanks - detailed reply. Personally I think the top 3 by that parameter is 1) Fury 2) Wilder 3) Usyk*

*Obviously with Usyk we'll have to see how he gets on at the weight, but in my opinion he's got the potential to beat everyone although Fury would be an incredibly stern test.

I don't think Wilder is the bext 'boxer' (far from it) but he's got that equaliser and could KO anyone at any point in the fight.

I think it's doing Fury a huge disservice to say he 'just relies on his reach and height'. In my opinion, he's clearly got lots of ability, and if height and reach were all that mattered then the likes of Valuev and Price would've had even better careers.

Thanks for sharing your opinion though

 

Well if he ain't worth the effort describing.... speaks volumes.