Prime Pac loses every historical H2H fight in history

Well he did get schooled by Eric Morales, and Marquez won at least 3 of their 4 fights leaving him face down in the last one.
I would pick him to lose to:
Sanchez
Duran
Arguello
and Pryor

 

lol Do you think that Pac beats any of Sanchez, Arguello, Whitaker, Duran or DLH?

 

Ye, he beats all of them. The toughest would have been Duran. ODLH would put up more of a fight, but Pac is a stylistic nightmare for ODLH. You saw what happened when ODLH faced a small 5'6 LW sized fast southpaw in his prime. Except unlike Whitaker, Pac had power to hurt ODLH. ODLH took floyd to an SD 10 months prior but got wrecked by Pac. Just like Hatton and Cotto gave Floyd a much tougher fight.

Arguello is too slow he gets outboxed. Sanchez gets overwhelmed. Whitaker outgunned. Duran is the most dangerous simply because he had all the skills, toughness and power to beat Pac in a war, but Pac's speed may carry him.

 

Of course you would say that. A prime Oscar at 140 ko's Pac, Sanchez stops Pac, Whittaker gives Pac a boxing lesson like Mayweather did, Pac has a chance against Arguello but Duran absolutely destroys Pac. I see Arguello as the only fight Pac would be competitive in.

 

Oscar KOs Pac based on Oscar being COMPLETELY dominated. And yes, weight drain is an excuse. Pac went up 2 divisions to destroy him and you folks rationalised it by saying ODLH was drained and would lose to any top 10 WW. ODLH stands is too squared up, too open down the middle, always open to a mover with good lateral movement.

And lol at Sanchez stops Pac, as if he was ever close to being stopped at FW. Sanchez barely fought anyone, a couple of good wins and now he stops one of the greatest ever. Nelson ain't on that level.

You know what, your certainty and BS sounds exactly like these guys on this thread. Its so too bad that its only hypothetical.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/hatton-vs-pacquiao-late-2008.38309/

 

My non biased opinion

He did get schooled by Marquez, arguably in every fight. The fight he looked the best in was the 4th fight and we all know how that turned out. He was also in fact schooled by El Terrible in their first fight. Fair play to him he dominated the rematches.

When you consider certain matchups you have to consider the weight classes and the version of Pac at "that" weight as well.
Salvador Sanchez (one of the best FWs ever) would've destroyed FW Pac. Pac was a free swinging left handed gunslinger with little else at the weight. Speed and power would not be enough against Sanchez.

Arguello would've been a rough opponent for Pac with his dimensions. Not calling a winner on that one because Pac was starting to get polished at SFW, he could've won.

Duran was the greatest LW of all time IMO. I'm hard pressed to find any LW beating him during his prime run.

I think Pac beats Meldrick Taylor.

JCC vs. Pac I think is 50/50, Pac at 135-140 was a fairly complete guy.

Vs. Sweet Pea, who couldn't Pea school? He schooled everyone. It took multiple weight jumps and a cocaine habit before he was actually beatable.

Any version of Oscar through the Fernando fight would've stopped Pac. There's no shame in that Oscar was a monster (like him or hate him).

Mosley was very likely one of the top 5 LW's in history and looked well nigh unbeatable at the weight. He had to go up two classes (completely skipping one) and fight a stylistic nightmare before he lost.

 

147 is conspicuously absent from the OP.

 

Oscar was shot when he fought Pac. He looked like crap when he fought Forbes and only got older by the time he fought Pac. Only hardcore Pac fans count Oscar as some sort of great win.

 

Sanchez would have been stopped. Just use the eye test, he doesn't stand a chance. Just not dynamic or fast enough

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And ODLH would also be dominated. The problem with Oscar is his style, Pac's biggest weakness is the right hand, Oscar doesn't have a right hand. SO he has now weapon against Pac. He has a left hook which Pac has never been troubled by.

Pac at LW against Diaz looked as unbeatable as any fighter I ever saw, it's a shame he only had 1 fight there but he probably would have been at his most devastating at LW moreso than WW and JWW. A fight with Duran would have been an all out war.

 

Pac deserves some credit for taking the fight since it wasn’t understood how awful Óscar was. Oscar didn’t even rehydrate much if a remember correctly. It was a strange situation.

 

Prove it? You can only prove that if 1 of 2 things happen:
1) ODLH fights again and loses to a bum.
2) Pac loses to a bum therefore Pac is a bum at WW and ODLH lost to a bum in Pac.

He went SD with Floyd 10 months prior.

And people claimed he was shot afterwards by saying Pac would lost to any top 10 WW. The fact that he dominated the top WWs thereafter proves that it wasn't a fluke, ODLH may have very well been still a top WW and would have still been dominated, just as Pac dominated guys like Cotto.

Oh yea, Oscar was 35. Pac is now 40 and sure he's past it. But ODLH didn't go from a guy SD floyd to Toney shot in 10 months at age 35.

 

Pac weighed more than Oscar fight night. lol Oscar could barely climb through the ropes. If you saw the Forbes fight, you realized that Oscar had significantly declined. I thought Oscar looked shot against Mayweather.

 

Except ODLH said he felt good after the fight, and his trainer Berestein said everything was fine.

So yea, I take the fighters and his trainers word over yours.