(1966) Muhammad Ali vs (2019) Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Aug 9, 2019.


Who wins?

  1. Ali

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  2. Wildr

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    FACT of the matter is....

    Muhammaed Ali was troubled by this slimfast, skinny fat, undersized HW:

    https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/9379

    And then we have Wilder, lean, muscle bound, not an inch of fat on him, 6 foot 7, hits 10 times as hard as Henry Cooper.

    Ya'll DREAMING.
     
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    With what? A 61% KO ratio???

    Do you watch boxing? Or do you listen to it on the radio?
     
  3. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali moves too much for Wilder to land the KO punch.

    Ali was a much better but smaller version of Fury.
     
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  4. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder was rocked by Dustin Nichols.. so what?
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    And yet....

    He knocked down the most illusive and rangy fighter in the division, the greatest since Ali??? TYSON FURY THE GOAT.

    Caught him twice, Wilder only needs one time.

    Ali isn't tall enough to keep Wilder off him, and Ali does have a solid chin, but we all know how hard Wilder hits...

    If you step into the real world you will realise.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    So he has never been stopped in 40 fights, that's what ...................and he has fought guys that hit hard.

    And he has 97.5% KO ratio, that's what

    And he hits faster/harder than anyone Ali fought, that's what...
     
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  7. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    Ali is more 6ft 3.5 than 6.2.5 and infinitely faster than wilder, if fury with his relatively slow speed at side of Ali can go all the way with wilder then Ali manages that easy.also Ali power is very nearly same as fury, fury can’t punch for s—t for such a heavy man. Wilder loses by TKO or massive points loss. Ps don’t believe the trend on this forum trying to make Ali smaller and these heavies taller today to try and make the size difference bigger.https://images.app.goo.gl/2cMKgZaDMiyzXdj46 Here’s Ali next to 6ft 3 Bruno, note the hand size and height difference.
     
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  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Muhammad Ali's Height On his own passport his height was listed as 6ft 2.5
     
  9. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Yeah the shot corpse of Stiverne who was dropped by featherfisted journeyman Rossy and by most accounts was lucky to get the decision(Don King special)

    The rest of your post is way too hyperbolic and not worth responding to. Again. Ali all day every day and I'm not a fanatical supporter of the guy. But he's a legitimate ATG - Something Wilder isnt and never will be.
     
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  11. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So now when Whyte is gone you promote Wilder?
    Why don't you pick a good boxer this time.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Given Ali stopped Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Lyle, Williams, Folley, Quarry and Elis. I'd say yes he could stop Wilder.
     
  13. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the problem with newbie fans. They’re too emotionally invested in an active fighter, so they feel desperate need to praise the current era to heavens just to elevate their favourite fighter.

    Wilder’s fight against Clement Russo was a very long time ago and he’s improved immensely since, but that’s exactly how he’d look against Ali: just like he did against Russo 11 years ago.
     
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  14. john roberts

    john roberts Member Full Member

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    The real fact of the matter is Ali was only 21years old and had only 19 fights When got caught by cooper, obviously he was green thinking he was it . like cocky early 20s guys do and got caught, he realised made a mistake came back and leathered Henry you cannot use things like that as a barometer, come on bud we have all been 21 lol
     
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fact of the matter is that Foreman and Liston both hit much harder than Cooper and Ali survived. In fact he didn't even have trouble with either. He probably lost 4 rounds of 15 against two ATGs.
    Also Wilder is not as accurate as Liston or as good a boxer. Ali would embarrass him like he did everyone in the 60s. Also Wilder wouldn't be the quickest fighter that Ali fought, Patterson was.
     
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