(1966) Muhammad Ali vs (2019) Deontay Wilder

Wilder is a big lanky dosser with all the punching ability of Max Baer on the sauce. Ali would pepper that dribbling fool with punches he never even knew existed, then strike a pose over his floppy carcass that hipsters and students all over the world post up on their dorm walls in his honour, having no idea who the pathetic plonker on the canvas is.

 

I don't believe he is a full 6 ft 9, but then again I haven't seen his passport.

By the way, do you think a guy just looks a man and says yeah i think you are about 6'1 and writes it in a official document like a passport, is that how it works? I would have thought, that somewhere, some office can afford a tape measure to measure the candidate before writing it in the passport.

And yeah Ali doesn't look 6'3 to me either.

 

You don't need to be an ATG to beat an ATG, that shuts down your hyperbole.

I am too real for you. Next time bring more sunblock if my truth hurts.

 

You are just butthurt that I am the realest on this forum, that I can give credit easily, to anyone that deserves it.

I dont fit the status quo of being a hater, and this annoys you.

P.S Whyte is here to stay, when he comes back, you are not invited to the party.

 

But did you see how he stopped Foreman? Those circumstances rooted more in the exhaustion of foreman rather than the power of Ali, as Foreman punched himself out, and Ali did the rope a dope.

Ali has 61 per cent KO ratio man, that says it all... Wilder has more KO's than Ali, and he has has 16 fights less.

It doesn't matter if you KO bums, because bums can have better chins than skilled guys, just check out Dave Allen,.

97.5 per cent KO ratio is a statement, for a HW with 40 fights

 

Being 21 is not an excuse, when Ali's chin was pretty much fully developed (it doesn't change much), and Henry is a joke of a HW in terms of stature, compared to a beast like Wilder... who is HUGE, regardless of his weight.

Hell I am big for my weight, because I have smaller bones, and more muscle.

Cooper ain't the tenth of a man that Wilder is, and Wilder would KO Ali imo.

Henry is barely a cruiser weight today, and he would get mauled by todays Cruisers... like Okolie did to 6'2 Chamberlain.

I know you don't believe me, but sometimes size matters.

 

Of course age and the amount of fights you have had, makes a difference, or world champions would be made instantaneously. All fighters have to go through a learning process and take something learned from each fight they have or they don’t improve, yes cooper is not a massive man but he was a fully developed seasoned fighter with a great left hook against a young brash green guy showing off with not many fights under his belt, and cooper took advantage of that in their respective career s at that point in time. So if you believe Ali was the same fighter he was against cooper in 63 as in 66 then you know nothing about boxing and I’m wasting my time. Now as far as size is concerned I’ve been watching heavyweight boxing for around 35 years and have seen many larger heavier men succumb to smaller lighter heavies because of skill and other qualities, how do you think fighters like Tyson, Holyfield, Byrd, Haye, Toney, Ruiz, Mike Spinks and loads more fighters became champions fighting taller heavier longer reached men, I will tell you how because there’s more to boxing than those 3 qualities and because you don’t seem to understand this it makes we question weather you know much about boxing at all.

 

It all depends on what you want to believe, I will go with photos next to 6ft 3 fighters and the actual passport, and 50yrs worth of tale of tape posters and commentators saying 6ft3 99% of the time over that 50yrs thanks lolhttps://images.app.goo.gl/W3GNV9bYsEqSTCzZ8 and https://images.app.goo.gl/XBqT1HR6Ew7diTq3A this is real stuff not celeb stuff lol

 

I think you underestimate how hittable Ali is, it is like the Usyk syndrome. He is "too slick", yet he gets hit A LOT.

He may win most rounds against Wilder, even all of them, but he would eventually get caught by Wilder and KOd... I think Tyson Fury getting off the canvas was a statistical blip.

But Ali would defo get caught flush, he can't stay perfect all rounds, not even Fury could with they huge reach advantage and range.

And Ali wouldn't hurt Wilder any more than Fury imo. Fury pops a 85 inch reach jab with 250 pounds behind it, you can't tell me it doesnt generate more power than Ali when both have the same, non Wilder explosive power.

 

It is not about how much you know about boxing when it comes to Wilder... because Wilder is a unique case.

He throws everything you think you know about boxing out the window, there has never been another Wilder... 6 foot 7 built like a lean explosive NBA player, with over 10 years boxing experience learning how to punch, and how to throw his money shot perfects. He is just TOO powerful, too l0ng, too rangy... he is not your average case in boxing/

And because of that, he would nullify any skill Ali brings to the able. Ali can AND DOES get hit A LOT... and Ali would have to be perfect for 12 rounds, and he won't be perfect for 12 rounds, and Wilder needs ONE SHOT... just ONE....

Fury got off the canvas due to luck, I don't believe anyone else can do that. Stiverne took Wilder the distance because he was injured, and not a peak capacity..

You cannot deny Wilder's power... would change the game completely. And I am real enough to accept that, not taking away from Ali's boxing, or hyping Wilders boxing ability.

 

We are talking prime Ali 66 he did not get hit a lot and wilder is just another Henry akinwade or Micheal grant, the only difference is wilder hasn’t got the bottle to test himself against a real threat, he’s fought nobody in 40 fights only an inactive overweight fury who thought would be easy and a 900 year old blood pressure Ortiz the rest are nobodies. His power is overrated because he dare not test himself with live opponents that’s the truth of it and if Ali was around today he wouldn’t dare get in the ring with him 6ft 3 or not . What exactly would wilder nullify Ali’s speed with, you do know Ali has been in with fighters same reach and more don’t you? Ps Ali is a unique fighter there as never been as fast a heavyweight with feet and hands.

 

I have posted the passport are you blind my friend.

 

Reach alone ain't the same if it ain't couple with height. Wilder is 6 ft 7, and not slow like the taller guys of back then, a la primo.

Wilder is very fast, very explosive, very accurate with his money shot (practised it enough), and Ali is not different of a human being to any of Wilders opponents to not get hit and not go down. I am sorry.

But we each stated our opinions, and the closest test we have today is Usyk? Would you accept Usyk fighting Wilder as a rough enough indicator of how Wilder would fair against Ali???

Or does no one replicate what Ali brings to the table..?

 

Of course it's a statement. I'm not trying to convince anyone Ali hits harder than Wilder. That would be ridiculous.

I'm just saying Ali's KO rate against guys like that proves he can punch. He's not feather fisted. I'd say he definitely hits harder than Ortiz.