Sub 200lbs Tournament, who wins?

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Jersey Joe Walcott (3rd Charles fight)
Ezzard Charles (Louis fight)
Rocky Marciano (2nd Charles fight)
Max Schmeling (Louis fight)
Oleksander Usyk (Glowacki fight)
Jack Dempsey (Willard fight)
Evander Holyfield (2nd Qawi fight)
Sam Langford (2nd Wills fight)

Rules

All fights with an old school ref, grappling, thumbing, pulling are allowed
Have to be near dead to be stopped
Neutral Corner after a KD
18.5x18.5 ring
15 rounds

1st Stage.

Walcott vs Langford (1)
Charles vs Holyfield (2)
Marciano vs Dempsey (3)
Schmeling vs Usyk (4)

Semi Final.

Winners of 1 and 4
Winners of 2 and 3

Final.

Who Wins and How does it go?
No Rematches.

 

Thumbing and pulling allowed?

 

Walcott vs Langford
I got Walcott timing Langford and basically shoving him to not grapple, Langford has a punchers chance but it's more likely he's led to miss all of his shots and gets beautifully countered. Over and Over again.

Walcott UD15

Charles vs Holyfield
I think Charles moves to much and lands more punches, wins rounds, doesn't get KOed and takes the Decision.

Charles UD15

Marciano vs Dempsey
This would make the Pacquiao Marquez series look like a calm debate. This fight would be insane in the clinch and probably one of the most dirty fights ever. Dempsey would try and swing Rocky around whilst trying to paw out his eyes but to me Marciano is the better puncher with the better chin, Jack's quicker, bigger and has the defence advantage but I think he gets stoved bad as the rounds go on. Rocky would break him down then eat him alive. Risky catches him cold and Jack fails to get up, trys but fails.

Rocky KO14

Schmeling vs Usyk
I like Usyk to dictate the range better here, and so do everything he needs to better. He'd move to the right to avoid being caught with Schmeling's right hand and would flick his jab at Schmeling's face repeatedly. I don't think he'd be KOed and he'd win more rounds. His Stamina is good enough to go 15, but we don't know how he'd handle it after 12, he'd slow down and lose the last 3 imo.
Competitive but Clear decision for the Feel Deal

Usyk UD15

 

Ye like Foreman used to do

 

Dempsey beats everyone under 200lbs.

 

Why picking Langford past his best?

 

Coz It's as close to his best at a weight that's around the others, also its one of his best results. And he hadn't lost to Wills at that point

 

I would probably pick Langford against Walcott. Joe was terrific fighter but he wouldn't make Langford miss for 15 rounds and Sam had too much power for him and that power lasted all night long.

Sam by late KO.

 

Usyk vs Walcott
Fun fight, Usyk takes it on speed and activity over 12, but over 15 I think after throwing so much on Walcott and missing a lot of it he'd be slowing down and get somewhat sloppy. Usyk would walk into a hard counter and get Knocked Down. Walcott winning the final 3 rounds I think he wins a close but clear UD.

Walcott UD15

Marciano vs Charles

Well we know how it went, I think it looked virtually the same but with Charles taking less damage.

Marciano UD15

 

Walcott vs Marciano

We know how this went as well.

Rocky Marciano KO13

 

He couldn't have done that with Marciano for all fight and Langford was better defensively than Rocky.

 

Marciano and Dempsey massacre each other imho. Whoever wins out of that is gonna be dogmeat and no longer factor in the touranment.
Usyk beats Schmeling.
Charles vs Holyfield is a tossup. I can't make up my mind. I might go with Holy for consistency.
Walcott and Langford I likewise can't pick. Two cagey, crafty guys. Lots of guys might pick Langford but Walcott was no joke.

I think Usyk might take it over Langford and Walcott. He's a much bigger guy and will probably be a combination of size and styles they haven't seen before.

Holyfield likely beats the carcass of whoever is left of Marciano and Dempsey.

It's probably Usyk vs Holyfield in my final and these guys are both top shelf operators. I can absolutely see the case for Holyfield, but I'm going to pick Usyk on pedigree at cruiser, which is where this fight is taking place. A recent thread on the greatest cruiser made me realise that Usyk's resume is in fact deeper than Holy's at cruiser.

However, these are all great fighters and you could probably make a decent case for any of them winning, except maybe Schmeling.

 

Why all of them but not Max?

 

I voted Marciano, though I always flip flop over Marciano vs Dempsey.

 

Marciano, though Dempsey and Usyk would be stiff challenges