Breaking: AJ/Ruiz II Officially Confirmed for Dec. 7th in Saudi Arabia, $84 million pot

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Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz II, who wins?

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  1. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah you're right, Haymon does a shite job making his fighters successful. Look at Floyd for example.
     
  2. Sammy123

    Sammy123 Money Maker Staff Member

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    Seemed to have worked fine for fighters from just 5+ years ago. Even the Lennox Lewis rematch court battle was to enforce Rahman to defend the title, after it was enforced the negotiations were mutual, the rematch clause never had a negotiation pre-stipulation.

    These **** stain rematch clauses seemed to have become common place with Hearn and GBP. However, I've yet to see GBP stipulate everything in a one-sided dictation the way Hearn has done it here. This really needs to go to court, if Ruiz isn't pleased with the location or purse.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That’s where it gets interesting.

    Eddie and Dazn HAVE to have this fight in 2019. They already lost out on the crucial September date for Canelo ... and even if this fight happens at dawn U.S. time it’s still the biggest thing they can pull off this calendar year.

    IF Ruiz and Co. are willing to slow-play this and have it end up being pushed back to the spring or next summer to get their terms, Eddie will be slow-boiling in water that keeps getting hotter and hotter. That’s where the Ruiz side negotiating power comes from.

    AJ wants it this year, of course, but I’m not sure how well he’ll mentally handle another long layoff if Ruiz lets it simmer. Will he demand that Eddie give him a tune-up? Or will he get stale? Or will his confidence get even shakier?

    This could play out a lot of ways, and I think Eddie/Dazn will cave on giving Ruiz more money to get it done in December rather than risk it lingering into the spring or longer.
     
  4. Pompey Junglist

    Pompey Junglist Active Member Full Member

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    Ruiz wants to have his cake and eat it.
     
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  5. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    Well what else do you do with a cake?
     
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  6. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    So if your accountant did a great job for 99 out of his 100 customers but let you down you'd be cool with that?
     
  7. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Meh. This only seems to be a problem when Americans win the title off a foreign champion. Why is Ruiz, who isn't exactly a draw in his own right yet being told he calls the shots when the sport rightly or wrongly doesn't work that way? Mayweather was 100x the fighter Gatti was but he still had to play ball until it was his time.
     
  8. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're working on the unhealthily fixated assumption that he's somehow shafted Ruiz. There is literally no evidence of that.
    In fact, as demonstrated by the fact Ruiz isn't fighting in the UK and isn't fighting for a paltry figure, the current evidence is showing the latter.

    As someone who LARP's as a lawyer, you should know this.
     
  9. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    This is prize fighting - the prize on offer is of major importance and his manager should of looked to secure better terms in a rematch which shouldn't of been the world's hardest thing to do considering Ruiz was a 25-1 underdog. I mean it's almost as if his own management didn't think he had a chance in the match up...

    And the LARP comment made me laugh as my name has the letters LLB LLM after it courtesy of a stint at the University of Manchester. Still I'd imagine you've also handled big negotiations and contracts in your life so are in a position to school me on the matter. :qmeparto:
     
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  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ruiz absolutely is a draw. You’re unfamiliar with the Mexican market.

    Regarding the English, I find it notable how their only heavyweight titlists in recent times are unable to actually defend their titles or challenge for titles like normal boxers. Haye was a prima donna who would only fight corpses or Wlad and broke contracts for fun. Fury never made a single defense because he was on steroids and, as he claims, sad. And Joshua has joined Bruno among the ranks of the mentally weak.

    Lewis would give much needed redemption, but alas, he was Canadian.
     
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  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Breaking: AJ/Ruiz II Officially Confirmed for December 7 in Saudi Arabia, $84 million pot

    Ironically, no one told Ruiz.
     
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  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Where were all the Mexican buys in the initial match up then? Why wasn't he a huge draw headline shows in Mexico beforehand? He still isn't a massive draw despite having won three belts.

    Haye was a diva. Fury never made a defence and was drug addled/depressed. Bruno was flawed but if you want to play silly games then we can do that:

    Holyfield was a drugs cheat, Tyson was a ****** bully who couldn't handle an improved level of competition once people started standing up to him, Bowe was a mental midget who shamefully threw his belt in the bin - I could go on if you'd like us to continue to criticising world class fighters for strange nationalistic purposes?
     
  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    One thing I know is that those American fighters you’ve just mentioned never lost their titles by quitting.

    This may come as a shock to you, but Andy Ruiz’s popularity has risen dramatically in the American and Mexican markets this summer.
     
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  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearn up to his BS shenanigans yet again. He set this up so Ruiz would have to deal with this in the public view. How can the fight be confirmed if Ruiz has not even signed the contract? And obviously the fight was not agreed upon in advance so Hearn is making **** up again just like he did when he told all you gay ass contract lawyers it was set in stone in Cardiff. Hearn's a lying POS.
     
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