Jack Dempsey vs Shannon the Cannon Briggs

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Prime Dempsey fights prime Briggs. How tough is this for Jack?
     
  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dempsey by KO or clear decision.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Tunney threatened Dempsey with the jab to keep him off but Shannon never did that in his fights, pretty easy work for Jack unless he gets caught dipping his head forwards.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Dempsey brutal KO

    How the **** is this even a question?
     
  5. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Briggs was a big unit and had huge power but Jack would probably land first and early.
     
  6. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Immobile statue vs a very quick sledgehammer puncher. It would have been something to watch.
     
  7. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    Seriously! Dempsey destroys this guy. WTF!
     
  8. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    The sharp punching CW quickster would "destroy" the guy never KOd by a SHW monster

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    Ok.......
     
  9. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Size does not determine punching power nor punching effectiveness.
     
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  10. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Never KOed by a SHW, uh

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  11. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    I know the alternate universe of BF24, but I´d rather ask the historic delusionists for a minute of common sense.

    Abstract
    Objective: The biomechanics of the head for punches to the jaw and the risk of head injury from translational and rotational acceleration were studied.

    Methods: Seven Olympic boxers from five weight classes delivered 18 straight punches to the frangible face of the Hybrid III dummy. Translational and rotational head acceleration, neck responses, and jaw pressure distribution were measured. High speed video recorded each blow and was used to determine punch velocity. Equilibrium was used to determine punch force, energy transfer, and power.

    Results: Punch force averaged 3427 (standard deviation (SD) 811) N, hand velocity 9.14 (SD 2.06) m/s, and effective punch mass 2.9 (SD 2.0) kg. Punch force was higher for the heavier weight classes, due primarily to a higher effective mass of the punch. Jaw load was 876 (SD 288) N. The peak translational acceleration was 58 (SD 13) g, rotational acceleration was 6343 (SD 1789) rad/s2, and neck shear was 994 (SD 318) N.

    Conclusions: Olympic boxers deliver straight punches with high impact velocity and energy transfer. The severity of the punch increases with weight class.

    https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/39/10/710


    Which is also a question of "taking the punch"!

    "On the receiving end, a person is knocked out by the acceleration of the head injuring the brain. A heavier person would absorb the momentum of a punch with less velocity. So his brain would not be bounced around as much as a lighter person's would."

    Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...-punch-resistance-and-power-in-boxing.921575/

    "Finally, the correlations between strength/power variables and punching impact indices ranged between 0.67 and 0.85. Due to the strong associations between punching impact and strength/power variables (e.g., lower limb muscle power), this study provides important information for coaches to specifically designing better training strategies to improve punching impact."

    https://www.researchgate.net/public..._With_Punching_Impact_in_Elite_Amateur_Boxers

    Ah because weightclass doesn´t matter, specialised researcher normalize the punch force per body weight :lol:

    "The maximum punch force per body weight was used to take into account weight different and to be used as a model for powerful straight punches."

    https://efsupit.ro/images/stories/30dec2017/Art 287.pdf


    @BitPlayerVesti : Did you change your vote in the "Bowe vs. Carnera - Disqualification" or just sneaking out occasionally waering the monochromatic goggles?
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Which one is the immobile statue???
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Briggs arguably beat Big George Foreman
     
  14. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Power being effected by weight is not the same as power being determined by weight.

    Of course larger fighters on average have more power, but there's way more to it. There are plenty of counter examples of heavier fighters not hitting as hard as lighter ones. Even just sticking to fighters of the same eras, David Haye hits harder than Tyson Fury, Jimmy Wilde hit harder than Memphis Pal Moore, and Joe Louis hit harder than Primo Carnera

    I don't have a clue what you were rambling about after mentioning me. I don't have a duty to be part of every repetitive old vs new argument

    Smaller fighters are also faster, so against bigger opponents can load up more to compensate, which Dempsey was the king of.
     
  15. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    How are people on this forum still ignorant to this ****, it's common sense and has been show numerous times throughout boxing history