Breaking: AJ/Ruiz II Officially Confirmed for Dec. 7th in Saudi Arabia, $84 million pot

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rikicortz, Aug 7, 2019.


Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz II, who wins?

  1. Anthony Joshua Points

    17.5%
  2. Anthony Joshua KO

    37.3%
  3. Draw

    0.6%
  4. Andy Ruiz Points

    3.0%
  5. Andy Ruiz KO

    41.6%
  1. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop backtracking. You said AJ could leave and it would make no difference to Matchroom.

    None of the "PPVs" you just mentioned do anywhere near AJ level business.

    Also, what PPV attractions have Matchroom built up again? AJ I know. Who are the others? Pretty much every other major attraction Eddie has had he poached from other promoters after they were already well known. Dillian Whyte only has a name from AJ. We know that and he's getting banned anyway. Won't be seeing much more of the poaching now every major promoter seems to be aligned with their own PPV platform. The salad days of Eddie's Sky PPV monopoly are long over.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The point I'm trying to make is the same I've always tried to make.

    If Ruiz thinks he can get more money, good on him.
     
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  3. goku23

    goku23 Member Full Member

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    Haymon is extremely sharp. He undoubtedly had his legal team to go through the contract in depth and there is no chance he'd let Ruiz breach the contract and risk his fighter being taken to the cleaners.
    I'd take Haymon's connections over Hearn's...his lawyers must've seen a loophole or something that can be exploited.
     
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  4. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    It depends if you place any value on a man keeping his word.

    The risk for Andy is that Hearn may actually benefit from ruining him in the courts.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    No lol, I don't watch boxing to see who sticks to their word the most.

    I watch boxing to see good fights.

    One of the things I don't like in boxing is A side fighters claiming large shares of the pots due to their "name".

    It just so happens that here we have a man who was given a voluntary shot, proceeded to knock out the number 1 HW in the world and now he's decided he isn't playing the B side any more. I like it.

    Of course he will still get less money than AJ, but he'll get more than he signed up for and he's almost certainly gonna smack him around the ring again.
     
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  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Haha, and you said the earth was flat, but I am not going to trawl the internet to see where you said that.


    Yeah two can play this game...
     
  7. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alright mate. You win. Sorry if my interpretation of the facts offended you. Let's just take a deep breath and move on yeah.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    **** Eddie Hearn and **** Anthony Joshua. Neither of them thought Ruiz had close to a chance, and handed him the same dismissive contract they do with everyone. Well, the facts on the ground have changed now mother****ers. Andy's the champ, he took AJ The Great And Powerful's 0. He's the A side now, so ****ing deal with it, and treat him like the A-side, since he beat the Man, he now is The Man.
     
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  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An actual fight contract has to specify the venue that the fight is being held — you can’t make someone sign something to appear “in Saudi Arabia” or “in New York” ... it has to tell the date and place the fighter is expected to show up.

    Or I guess you could, but he could satisfy the contract by merely being somewhere in that country on the date specified.

    So that alone could stand up as Ruiz having a reason not to sign.
     
  10. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    So even if I do agree with you, you can't take it? :lol:
    AJ leaving would of course hurt a bit, but in the long run it would make no difference. Their model is not built on AJ.

    And whats wrong with signing boxers who are already known, and then making them PPV attractions? Matchroom did it with Froch, Bellew and will likely do so with BJS.

    Matchroom will have to step their game up, because the guys who sold PPV's are gone. Well AJ is still there, but he only fights twice a year.
    They will have to keep importing talent from overseas(like Loma, Linares, Golovkin, Spence) and build up their own stars.

    Potential PPV headliners Matchroom has: Usyk, Joshua, Whyte*, Smith, BJS and Brook*. Of course no one comes close to Joshua. But even then, no other promoter has someone as strong of a draw as Joshua.
    Matchroom on SKY will be doing just fine. They have a good relationship. And will likely find new stars in the future.

    Matchroom has close to a 100 fighters, and are signing new talent on the regular. They are doing just fine.
     
  11. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Okay that I can agree with, he's his own man and he's free to do and say as he pleases. If he wants to ask for more money, then that's fine, ask away... but Matchroom have zero obligation to give him anymore and from a legal standpoint he has no grounding to force their hand into giving him more. He's again free to walk away, but then the $5m he earned from fight 1 he'll likely lose all of and then some.
     
  12. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Next time just say, "I was wrong". Or even better, don't throw out the pro MisMatchroom propaganda in the first place. It'd be much easier on both of us.
     
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  13. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    He's the main man in the sense that he beat the previous 'man'... but the facts on the ground as you call them are already typed up on a piece of paper with all the financial details and other terms with his signature present right at the bottom of the page and filed in some lawyers office. Andy just needs to do it again, then he can call the shots, but for now, he gave up that right when he signed that bit of paper. Those are the only real facts.
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    You've been saying for over a year now how Matchroom is doomed and will never go anywhere. So who exactly here is spreading propaganda?
    :lol: GBP and WBSS were supposedly going to outshine anything Hearn did. Meanwhile Canelo is pissed off at Oscar and co. while WBSS is having legal and monetary issues.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    It depends if AJ wants the rematch or not. If he does, Ruiz gets paid.