★ ★ ★ Manny Pacquiao — Fighter of the Decade (2010—2019) ★ ★ ★

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  1. Pakkuman

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    Joshua Clottey
    Antonio Margarito
    Shane Mosley
    Juan Manuel Márquez
    Timothy Bradley
    Juan Manuel Márquez
    Brandon Rios
    Timothy Bradley
    Chris Algieri
    Floyd Mayweather
    Timothy Bradley
    Jessie Vargas
    Jeff Horn
    Lucas Matthysse
    Adrien Broner
    Keith Thurman

    When Pacquiao fought them, they had a cumulative record of 560 wins against 36 losses. Only 2 fighters, Margarito and Matthysse, had been knocked out before at one a piece.

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    Pacquiao boxed 103 rounds against 8 world class fighters and lost just 1 round:
    • Clottey (12-0)
    • Margarito (12-0)
    • Mosley (12-0)
    • Rios (12-0)
    • Vargas (12-0)
    • Lucas Matthysse (7-0, KO)
    • Broner (12-0)
    • Algieri (11-1; Chris won the 5th cleanly)
    Defeated 3 young, prime, and undefeated fighters (Bradley, Algieri, and Thurman); 4 if Pac had gotten the nod against Jeff Horn.

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    • Timothy Bradley I — pure robbery
    • Juan Manuel Márquez — PEDs
    • Floyd Mayweather Jr. — illegal IV fluis (PEDs)
    • Jeff Horn — pure robbery
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    • Became 8 Weight Champion w/ vacant catchweight title match against Antonio Margarito
    • Became Lineal Champion for the 5th time
    • Became Oldest Welterweight Champion in boxing history
    • Became Welterweight Champion 3X
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    • At the early end of the decade, Pacquiao was violently and brutally KO'd and had the boxing world wondering if he would ever be seen in the ring again
    • Pacquiao was a part-time boxer throughout the decade
    • Pacquiao consistently gave up a significant size and weight advantage to all but 2 opponents (Marquez and Matthysse)
    • Pacquiao is still performing at an elite level at age 40
    • Pacquiao is a beltholder and has the best resume of any welterweight
     
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  2. Pakkuman

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    It will be a crime if Pacquiao doesn't win Fighter of the Year and Fighter of the Decade.

    :deal:
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather > Pac this decade. Although it's alot closer than it was 2 months ago.
     
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  4. Pakkuman

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    Mayweather only fought for half of the decade.

    Shane Mosley (good win)
    Victor Ortiz (was coming off of brutal fight w/ Berto where he was on the verge of being knocked out... twice)
    Miguel Cotto (good win in a close fight)
    Robert Guerrero
    Canelo Alvarez (drained, green)
    Marcos Maidana (draw was best case scenario for Floyd; paid 1.5 million to Maidana to wear different gloves)
    Marcos Maidana
    Manny Pacquiao (injured plus Floyd used illegal IVs)
    Andre Berto (lol)
    Conor McGregor (0-0-0 record)
    Teenaged Japanese Bantamweight Kickboxer

    Considerations
    • Had ultra low T/E ratios in 2 fights (red flag for doping)
    • Used illegal IV fluids in the biggest fight in the history of boxing
    • Paid an opponent to wear different gloves
    • Ducked Pacquiao for 5 years
    Uh, no.
     
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  5. Rikicortz

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    How can you forget the Japanese 110lb kick boxer he fought in Japan?
     
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  6. Pakkuman

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    Fixed!

    :D
     
  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Close fight? (Lol)
    Ok. Multiple championship fights is green? Pacquiao has drained people as well...
    Double Standards are mad.
    Could've gone either way, Floyd had a won in there. Maidana let him...
    ****ing hell get over it cuz
    It's boring now. Show us the case for the IVs. Injured? Not Floyd's fault. And Pac
    re-injured it in the 3rd, it was supposedly fine going into the fight.
    Better than Clottey, Rois, Bradley, Horn (lol), Vargas and Algeri....
     
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  8. Pakkuman

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    Close was the wrong word, but it was a very competitive fight.

    Hmm... name another opponent that Pacquiao and Floyd fought that is talking about fighting at Light Heavyweight... Hmm... Hmm...

    Maidana won. And Floyd paid $1.5 million dollars for Maidana to wear gloves he wasn't used to.

    Floyd used illegal IV fluids for a non-existent medical condition. You are the one who can't understand or refuse to acknowledge the extreme shadiness of the situation. Find a way to deal with it. Just don't deny foul play.

    Wow. Better than Bradley, Clottey, Vargas, and Algieri? Hell, Rios might even stop Berto. You're ****ing dumb, dude. How hate does your deep run to say something so idiotic?
     
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  9. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where do you find the energy???
     
  10. DynamicMoves

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    Marquez arguably beat pac in all 4 fights. Him and Floyd aren't controversial.

    Berto is bottom of the barrel. I like the guy, but he is not better than some of the guys you mention here.
     
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  11. Pakkuman

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    Decade's coming to a close.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    He's on a level of those guys. For Pacroid to say lol at Berto (who Floyd didn't lose a round to) he should really be saying lol to Horn (who Pacquiao lost to)
    And he makes out like it was the worst robbery ever. I can see a case for a draw or a Horn win. The 3rd Marquez fight was worse
     
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  13. Pakkuman

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    Floyd and Marquez agreed on a catchweight. Floyd didn't bother to make the weight and paid the penalty. The fight wasn't on even terms.
     
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    Bob Velin (USA Today) – [url]115-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Nick Tylwalk (FanSided) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Steve Bunce (BoxNation) – [url]115-113 Horn[/url]

    Mike Sloan (Sherdog) – [url]116-111 Pacquiao[/url]

    Gary Randall (Sherdog) – [url]116-112 Horn[/url]

    Mike Fridley (Sherdog) – [url]115-112 Horn[/url]

    Gary Parrish (CBS Sports) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Brian Campbell (CBS Sports) – [url]114-114[/url]

    Jason McIntyre (Fox Sports 1) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Dieter Kurtenbach (Fox Sports) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Skip Bayless (Fox Sports) – [url]Horn won[/url]

    Josh Katzowitz (Forbes) – [url]115-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Brian Mazique (Forbes) – [url]114-114[/url]

    Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Anton Tabuena (Bloody Elbow) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Bad Left Hook – [url]116-111 and 115-113 Pacquiao[/url]

    Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Ryan Songalia (Ring Magazine and Rappler) – [url]117-110 Pacquiao[/url]

    Doug Fischer (Ring Magazine) – [url]116-112 or 115-113 Pacquiao[/url]

    Tom Gray‏ (Ring Magazine) – [url]“Had Horn wide mate.”[/url]

    Mike Baca II (Ring Magazine and Undisputed Champion Network) – [url]“I’ve already rewatched. 115-113 Pac was the lowest I could go…”[/url]

    Steve Kim (Undisputed Champion Network) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Boxing News – [url]115-113 Pacquiao (Verdict: Close fight, no robbery)[/url]

    Michael Wilbon (ESPN) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Dan Rafael (ESPN) – [url]117-111 Pacquiao[/url]

    Marcellus Wiley (ESPN) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Ramona Shelburne (ESPN) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Nigel Collins (ESPN) – [url]114-113 Pacquiao (“Disagree w/ the “robbery” talk.”)[/url]

    Stephen A. Smith (ESPN) – Pacquiao robbed!!!!

    Teddy Atlas (ESPN) – 116-111 Pacquiao

    Arash markazi (ESPN) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    T.J. Quinn (ESPN) – [url]Pacquiao won (“This is a hometown hit job. Manny looked old, but mostly in control.”)[/url]

    Salvador Rodriguez‏ (ESPN) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Greg Bishop (Sports Illustrated) – [url]117-111 Pacquiao[/url]

    Al Bernstein (Showtime Sports) – [url]“I could see a draw or close for Pac”[/url]

    Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports) – [url]115-113 for Pacquiao[/url]

    Gareth A. Davies (The Telegraph) – [url]115-113 Pacquiao[/url]

    Jay Cowan (Spike Sports) – [url]115-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Marcos Villegas (Fight Hub TV) – [url]“I had him (Pacquiao) up by one point.”[/url]

    Jonathan Snowden (Bleacher Report) – [url]“I had Manny Pacquiao in a close fight.”[/url]

    ******* – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Ryan Phillips (The Big Lead) – [url]116-111 Pacquiao[/url]

    Lennox Lewis – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Lou DiBella (promoter) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    DJ Gallo (The Guardian) – [url]117-111 pacquiao[/url]

    Ben Thompson (Fight Hype) – [url]115-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Jeff Powell (The Daily Mail) – [url]Pacquiao robbed[/url]

    Bob Sheridan (commentator) – 114-114

    Paulie Malignaggi – [url]“I had horn by a point…”[/url]

    Eric Raskin (Former writer for ESPN and Grantland) – [url]114-114[/url]

    Graham Houston (Boxing Monthly) – [url]114-114 (“Cd. have gone either way.”)[/url]

    Martin Chesnutt (Boxing Monthly) – [url]115-112 Pacquiao (“…but was comfortable with 115-113 either way.”)[/url]

    Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) – [url]116-113 Horn[/url]

    Adam Abramowitz‏ (Saturday Night Boxing and Transnational Boxing Rankings board member) – [url]116-111 Pacquiao[/url]

    Rafael G (The Fight City) – [url]“Pacquiao won by 2 or 3 points.”[/url]

    Lee Wylie (The Fight City) – [url]Pacquiao won (“…certainly not a robbery. Close fight.”)[/url]

    Patrick Connor‏ (BWAA/IBRO member) – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    Michael Montero (Montero On Boxing) – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Behind the Gloves – [url]117-110 Pacquiao[/url]

    Erik Morales – [url]Pacquiao robbed[/url]

    Juan Manuel Marquez – [url]116-112 Pacquiao[/url]

    Timothy Bradley – Pacquiao won (very close fight)

    Guillermo Rigondeaux – [url]Pacquiao won[/url]

    55 for Pacquiao, 7 for Horn, 5 draw
     
  15. cslb

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    Love for Pac keeps him going.
     
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