prime Frank Bruno v Andy Ruiz who would have won?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Ruiz hits harder than Witherspoon did and his body shots are devastating,he would have destroyed Bruno.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He constantly missed with it.
     
  3. ray fritz

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    AJ far above BRUNO,Ruiz by ko
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Based on what? Hitting AJ? AJ has not been hit that many times but he’s been wobbled plenty. An old Klitschko nearly creamed him.

    Spoon hit hard.

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  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't like today HW division because fighters padd their records against nobodies and we have top 10 full of "undefeated" (or with less than 3 losses) fighters that don't want to fight against each other.

    How can we know that Ruiz would beat active, proven contenders from other eras when he only fought 2 relevant fights in his career and he didn't win one of them? Bruno is far from all-timer, but he was powerful hitter with very good jab and he beat good fighters (and lost to good fighters). We don't know how Ruiz would fare against Bruno competition. He's unproven not because he didn't win enough fights but because he didn't fight against the best opponents available so far (other than Joshua of course).

    Compare strong eras like 1890s, 1970s or 1990s and you'll know what I'm talking about.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Wlad hit harder than Witherspoon and Bruno wouldn`t have come back the right hand Wlad knocked AJ down with.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Everyone of any note Bruno beat was in their thirties or not ranked in any top 10 when he beat them, Ruiz would have destroyed anyone Frank beat.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Decent punches but Ruiz`s were crisper, if Witherspoon threw punches like this against AJ he would have got beat, he looks clumsy, against Frank he was out of shape and threw sloppy shots but Bruno was fighting really reckless, Whyte caught AJ wit a hook as powerful as these right hands and these guys were wide open AJ has a better defense than both of them.
     
  9. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And who (other than Joshua) exactly Ruiz beat that makes you so sure about it?
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    They were awful v Bruno I watched those fights and they weren`t boxing well at all.
     
  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    His hands are too quick.
     
  12. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's not an answer to my question. Bruno fared quite well against Tyson who was much quicker than Ruiz.
     
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  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Joshua boxed well against Ruiz? He looked weaker than ever.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Full credit for beating AJ but for all we know, in order to pass a drugs test in America Joshua might not have been the same fighter he was in the U.K.? And that would open a whole can of worms as to exactly what kind of level AJ is outside his home country.

    Between Joshua and Ruiz which one looks most likely to have been juicing long term?
     
  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You`re telling me the AJ of the Wlad fight could have taken those shots off Ruiz? They huge quick shots, he was getting caught flush, no way would AJ have taken them bassed on his other fights.