Me? What about David Haye and George Groves? Do they have front as well? As they believe there is more than meets the eye on this situation? But you stay in your armchair, with your pipe smoking up your expert opinions HAHAHAHA Failed previous tests? Nah just ONE test for JACK3D, which every tom dick and harry took. Now he gets VADA tested more than any other athlete. Passed BEFORE AND AFTER the Rivas test. Smoke that in your pipe. Well you banana, because they are composed of medical professionals in sports science, experts in their fields, lawyers, etc that all congregate to examine the test results and hear Whyte's case. And the doping agency UKAD listen to their verdict and relay their action to the BBBoC. NADP is the name of the independent panel go research you ignoramus. Nah you just made all that **** up, as if you know exactly how THIS PARTICULAR case is going to play out. Fact is, he was suspended TEMPORARILY from mando position, but GUESS WHAT? HE CAN STILL FIGHT UNDER WBC SANCTIONING YOU DUMB ASS. WBC await the findings of UKAD and BBBoC and VADA. WBC listen to VADA because VADA AND WBC are AFFILIATED and form the clean boxing forum, so go smoke that beautful fact because VADA love Dillian Whyte, they love his cleanliness, as he tested clean, over and over and over again. And WBC follow VADA testing results. Yeah funny how reality doesn't support any of your trashy statements, Wilder is fighting ortiz for a second time, then Kownacki that went life and death with washed up Arreola, and then feather fisted Fury who got an orgasm after his first KO in decades over Schwarz. Meanwhile Whyte is facing #6 contenders like Rivas and beating their asses down, even though Rivas was an olympian with 200 amateurs wins, Whyte had no amateur or olympian background of note and still won EASY. Wilder could have fought Whyte any times, LOOOOOOOOOOOL SURE, that's why he made Whyte wait 600 days and let Fury and Ortiz jump the queue. Wilder is a joke.
Yeah Whyte took PEDs deliberately that makes A TON of sense. Let's see how reality supports that notion..... Hmm got popped once, knows the repurcussions of doing it again, had no title shot to even consider doing it as a pay off... Gets tested regularly by VADA, pays out of OWN pocket, and given his busy schedule fighting the top tier, at the top of the division he has time to waste getting his cycling right... Seems to have been squeeky clean since 2012... no issues there... Was IN a strong position ranking wise, came a long way, grinded hard and took tough fighters when no title shot, no mando shot, no ranking was on the line like Parker and Rivas... YEAH MAKES TOTAL SENSE WHY WHYTE WOULD DO IT...MHMMM. SURE. NOT
That was his excuse but I do not recall him having the supplement tested or suing the company involved. Therefore we can only take Dillian's word that that was the source of the contamination much like we can BJS and his nasal spray or Kid Galahad with his spiked drink.
Err no, Jack3D back then contained the prohibited substance in question, and that was a supplement he was using, and he told the tribunal that. They gave him a slap for not checking the supplement, the supplement containing the prohibited substance was subsequently removed from UK. This was widely reported from reputable sources like the BBC news. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/22047144
If it was anything surely VADA would have collared him. VADA who test for the WBC didn't find anything. UKAD cleared the fella to fight yet WBC go on their findings and not their own chosen agency. WBC couldn't wait to protect Wilder. If Whyte has taken anything, its something minor otherwise UKAD and the BBBofC wouldn't have allowed the fight to take place.
He tweeted in the same year, "Don't worry I'll be back stronger and more educated" since then, he has racked up a huge resume to position himself at the very top of the division. While being regulary tested by UKAD and VADA. So no way, after being done for a silly mistake, would he get on the big stuff/gear... he is not that stupid because no human being reaching his level, and being in the fights he was, would be that stupid. Just does not support any notion that Whyte had a motive to take PEDs. He never got offered a title shot, for which to take a PED for supposed rewards, instead fighting Parker and Rivas, HARD opponents, he chose himself, for NO ranking, NO mando shot.
This is a decent update on the current situation, with the WBC sitting back and waiting to see how the investigation plays out. They want to see Whyte cleared before lifting the suspension of the interim and mandatory status for the WBC belt... “At this moment I want to clarify that the WBC did not suspend Dillian Whyte. The WBC suspended the situation regarding the interim championship and mandatory status of the division. Dillian Whyte has the right to go through a process which is regarding the adverse finding.” Mauricio Sulaiman https://bit.ly/31Gm4Ea
No that is an oversimplification, and a gross generalisation. There must always be a motive to do something, and everyone's circumstances are ALWAYS different. Every human being is different, their life different, their situation, ability, wealth etc. Miller used tremendous size to bully himself into the division, making up for his lack in boxing ability having started late. He took a short cut, then he mouthed his way into a title shot with AJ, and his chance came to use PEDs to secure a win and large money. Whyte didn't take any such shortcut, wasn't a 300 pound monster, nah he did it the hard way, learning to box on the job, and moving up at a good pace. He got offered title shot and turned it down, that's not something you do, if you are open to taking PEDs it is something you do if you trust in your ability and longevity in the game, to comeback in a strong position. Whyte was VADA tested more than any other ahtlete, and was very vocal about it. If you are a criminal you don't tweet your criminal activites and tag @ mention the police, and the FBI. He hasn't had any issue with VADA or UKAD since 2012. He took on hard fights against Parker/Rivas for NO RANKING/TITLE/MANDATORY, why would you do that? You would take PEDs if you were in a title shot, to win the title, and the money that comes with it. Did anyone on this forum accuse Whyte of suspicious performance? Like Miller being 300 plus pounds, and having great cardio..?? NOT ONE PERSON DID! The opposite in fact, saying Whyte was slow, plodding, gassing. So Whyte showed NO signed of being enhanced physically... his Jab got a lot better.. does PEDs give you a better jab??? NO. Face it, Whyte's situation is unique, and different and there is more to it than meets the eye. I bet when the real facts come out, and he is innocent/cleared you and the rest will back peddle and back track on your accusations and tarnishing of Whyte, painting him with the same brush as every other PED user in history.
I don't think Canelo or Ortiz had convincing stories. I don't think Tyson or Hughie were convincing in failing for nandrolone either. There's a reason why Tyson has been curiously quiet about Dillian's situation because he knows he managed to sweep his own dodgy results under a carpet of depression, recreational drugs and obesity.
Convincing, no. But at least they had plausible excuses, the Furys haven't even given us that only insistence that they're innocent and hostility to anyone who doesn't take that for an answer.
Pathetic It's not unusual for fighters to stick up for eacho other. David Haye as those of us on the inside know, was a prolific roid user himself, so of course he is to have sympathy. George Groves is simply an moron and his opinion means nothing to me. Regardless, you have to be a complete simpleton to think that because other fighters step forward to show support, then he must be clean. If everyone was taking it why didn't everyone else fail tests? He has form for cheating. He had gyno because of his abuse. The signs were there just like the signs were there before the Rivas fight and I was telling my friends that he was juiced up to hell, from his mere appearance. He had veins pulsing through his neck muscles every time he opened his mouth, his arms grew twice the size and then on fight night that disgusting pregnant bloated belly was there for all to see. He failed a test. What apart of that don't you understand? It doesn't matter how many tests he passed before, he eventually got found out. It's meaningless if they have not been presented with a blood sample. Any athlete is going to protest their innocence in front of a panel. It says a lot about the way things are done in the uk, when anti-doping agencies are relying on fighter's word on whether they are clean or not without proper thorough testing. It's merely logical reasoning. Since it has been reported that a b sample was requested. Now how long ago was this? Fought on the 20th of July. He reported to have failed the test before the fight. Today is the 19th of August, Does it take 40 days to get a test done? It certainly does if you have something to hide. and we know from how long UKAD kept Fury's case a secret while they allowed him to fight that they are as corrupt as anything. David Price exposed what a joke UKAD and anti doping is in the uk long ago but no one took heed of his warning. They cannot be trusted to rightly serve justice to drug cheats like Dillian All the governing bodies are waiting for your dope fiend junke to produce his B sample. Until then he will not be fighting again. The same Ortiz The Pill Snatcher didn't want any part of twice. M He fought a limited midget whilst roided, with a Matchroom referee by his side and still almost lost. Before that his best wins were against Lucas Browne, who Dave Allen beat in better fashion, Derek chisora after he should have lost the first time and Ian Lewison And this record is enough you to talk him up as if he is a threat to the champions of the division Ortiz was ready to fight Dillian, Breazelle, Pulev and Joshua. The only fighter who you can correclty claim to have ducked Dillian Whyte is Tyson Fury. Everyone else was willing to fight and knock him out. Champions don't chase peasants. No one made Whyte wait 600 day except himself. Wilder promised he would fight him should Eddie guarantee that he would fight Joshua straight after. Your paymaster couldn't offer that to Wilder. Wilder then said, if Whyte fights and beats Ortiz he would give him a title shot. Dillian didn't want to know Breazelle then offered Whyte his mandatory position. Again Dillian didn't want to know and instead chased after Chisora, Lucas Browne and Dave Allen Then cried that he wasn't getting a title shot. This is all on record. You keep holding on to this false fantasy that everyone is terrified of dillian when there is no evidence of such. Debating with you is like talking with someone who is schizophrenic, living in an entirely different world of sheer imagination [/quote][/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] Ohh Stephanie... still crying that Whyte gets more respect than Wilder??? Do you have any evidence to back up your claims that Whtye ducked breazeale? Ortiz? Wilder did not make Whyte wait 600 days? So why is he not offering Whyte a fight, but offering Ortiz twice, Fury twice, and no kownacki? None of them fought a mandatory? What has Joshua got to do with Whyte fighting Wilder? How is Dillian a Peasant if he offers 12 million dollars, more than Wilder has made to date, and more than he will make in his next fight? That's why your credibility on this forum is zero, and no one respects you. You are a laughing stock, I dont need to talk up Whyte, I just talk what History has already written. Roided up midget Rivas is limited yeah? OK, so what does that make Kownacki and Ortiz? When Rivas fights next, I'll see you duck away back into your cave, as if you didn't call Rivas limited ever. Whyte ain't a threat to the champions? Hmm OK, we'll see about that. If UKAD is a joke, then how do you pay attention to anything they say? It's cool because Whyte is on VADA, and they say his clean, so maybe you should listen to VADA who are more credible. Wilder's resume now looks like crap, Whyte is well above ducksquad.
