How good was Sonny Listons 58-63 knockout streak ?

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  1. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    After Bert Whitehurst, who he didn´t manage to stop after two bouts, Liston went on a knockout streak, starting 18/11/1958:

    Ernie Cab RTD 7/10
    Mike DeJohn TKO 6/10
    Cleveland Williams TKO 3/10
    Nino Valdez 3/10
    Willie Besmanoff RTD 7/10
    Howard King RTD 7/10
    Cleveland Williams TKO 2/10
    Roy Harris TKO 1/10
    Zora Folley KO 3/10
    Eddie Machen UD 12/12
    Howard King TKO 3/10
    Albert Westphal KO 1/10
    Floyd Patterson KO 1/15
    Floyd Patterson KO 1/15
    25/09/1963

    How good do you rate that run? Do you see anybody replicating it?
     
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  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Yap, I included it anyway. How would you rate that run?
     
  4. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    He often gets criticised for winning just two title fights.
    Should he´ve gotten a shot to the title earlier, making it more defenses?

    Why did Brian London get a shot for Pattersons title, loosing to Cooper prior, as well as Pastrano three fights before that ?
     
  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought in a way Liston, like Frazier, was off-paper champ for a couple of years before he actually won the title. I could be wrong, but SL beat more than a few quite legitimate contenders soundly; for instance Machen, who was actually a very good fighter got solidly beat, and was a very good win at the time.

    Sometimes I wonder if SL had gotten his chance a couple of years earlier it would have been a Prime Tyson-esque sweep in the division. And Ali the Buster Douglas (I'm joking here, folks, put away the noose).

    Off topic, but I do feel Frazier was world champ after he won the bogus "New York title". He was the immediate successor to Ali in every way come that fight.
     
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  6. jowcol

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    They offered Cooper $75,000 plus expenses to come to Indy; he wanted $150,000 plus expenses. The bodies nixed it. London took the 75K.
     
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  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    A damn impressive run anyway you look at it
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Careful. Choklab will be more than happy to explain no one was ducking liston and that he hadn't earned his title shot despite all the guys he was beating.
     
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