Full Bizarre Joshua interview Video - A Must Watch

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    I want to see SOME type of source, SOME type of evidence where HEARN offered Whyte directly as "this supposed carrot" at the end of the stick... show me that negotiation conversation please.

    And yet, since all the AJ negotiations fell through what has Wilder done since?

    - Fought Ortiz twice
    - Fought Bermane Stiverne rematch
    - Fought breazeale

    So these guys have more recognition than Whyte? Really? Because I already quoted PPV performances, that you don't seem to care about as you stated previously, and that you aren't an expert in, as you also stated previously. SO LET ME EDUCATE YOU THE SELF CONFESSED NON-EXPERT IN PPV STATS

    Whyte would have given Wilder way more coverage in the UK, and given him a huge paycheck from the PPV results, where Dillian is a reliable, consistent draw.

    Whyte certainly brings more to the table than Breazeale, Stiverne and Ortiz I don't care who you try and convince, the majority of analsysts and fans will agree.

    So Wilder still could have taken the Whyte fight, and achieved a lot more from those other guys he fought, it's not like he decided to sit around and wait for AJ to make a better deal, nah he took in between fights... so why wasn't Whyte one of thos in-between fights?

    Whyte brings, more of a challenge, more money, more exposure.

    Why do I need to speak to Hearn? Show me where Hearn suggested having Whyte and AJ as part of the same clause, and if it is such basic economics as you say, show me where this has been done before in history, as there have been unification bouts before right? When has this EVER been suggested if it is such BASIC ECONOMIC PRACTICE you would expect it to occur WAY more frequently right??

    What is your IQ man seriously I need to know, because it is below average.

    This excuse might have worked to justify the first time they fought, but the rematch????

    You are just piling excuses, you just want to justify it in your head, but nobody actually believes you here. NOBODY HERE believe you in trying to justify Wilder/Ortiz rematch over facing Whyte. NOBODY. So ask yourself why, you give contenders fights because you feel sorry for them or because they earnt it by manouvering into the number one position?

    Why do rankings exist? What is the point of being #1 if the number #4 guy gets called TWICE, first time they felt sorry for his daughter, second time???? felt sorry again... third time???? felt sorry again for Ortiz??? Really? Seph you credibility is non existent due to these crappy reasons you bring forward.
    Irrelevant? We're talking about why Whyte wasn't given a "free" handout like Ortiz and Fury got, twice each, you made excuses for the first bouts, but the second ones?? How long does that keep continuing? To ignore the number ONE contender? Is it me or is the WBC system clearly lacking>

    Whyte offered Ortiz a fight as headline event in the UK at the o2 just like he offered Chisora and Rivas, and Browne. Those guys came down no problem they fought, no problem. Ortiz came down to fight Dave Allen.... but he couldn't come down for Whyte?? For ten times more money? Isn't his daughter sick? Why say no to more money... that could help his daughter?

    Ortiz wanted Whyte to fly to america for peanutes on an undercard of Wilders fight...? You speak about basic economics how this economical? TELL ME?

    WHYTE IS PROVEN ON PPV DRAWS IN UK, I STATED THE FACTS AND FIGURES OF HIS PERFORMANCE, HE SELLS OUT O2 ON THE REGULAR... WHY MUST HE GO TO ORTIZ AS UNDERCARD IN USA.... INSTEAD OF ORTIZ COMING TO MAIN CARD IN UK WITH DILLIAN HUH????????????



    First of all there is no mess, Whyte "the sideshow act" went on to make more money then Wilder fighting in non title fight bouts, so that makes Wilder the freakshow act.

    AJ? Sitting on more money than Wilder will ever, ever, EVER make, and you can quote me. Now he will reclaim his belts, and make more money than Wilder has ever made his entire career. Win Win situation.
     
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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Watch and listen From Hearn himself

    Like the author's said - Hearn using Whyte for protection it's like Wesley Snipes character in the film New York city where he picks up someone else's daughter during a gun fight and uses the little girl as a human shield

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    And yet, since all the AJ negotiations fell through what has Wilder done since?

    - Fought Ortiz twice
    - Fought Bermane Stiverne rematch
    - Fought breazeale

    You forgot fought Fury.

    Ortiz,Fury and Breazelle are more familar to the US boxing scene than Dillian Whyte.

    Your ppv stats only focus on the uk. Yes Whyte is a bigger name in the uk, but not in America and the cash is in America.

    And belts? You seem to miss the point that the main objective was for Wilder to get his hands on Joshua. Whyte served as an side show obstacle/barrier put in place by Eddie.

    What eddie was effectively saying was '' in order to fight Joshua, you must go through his bodyguard''

    Breazelle = Mando

    Fury = Enough said

    Ortiz = Bigger name stateside, unbeaten and tougher opponent

    Whyte = Damaged goods, no name in America and had already had been destroyed by Joshua. No belts and not obligated to offer any voluntary defence to one of Hearns goons.


    r Eddie was so disrespectful and messed both Wilder and Finkel around

    There's such a thing as principles. It's not always about money, which is why Ortiz is rewarded with a rematch from the bond both him and Wilder formed through their daughters


    Like I said he was damaged goods, already an L on his record and struggled against C level fighters. Arguably got beaten by chisora in their first fight.

    Only deluded fools like you think he has any chance against Wilder.

    You may as well be rallying behind Chisora and pretend Wilder is avoiding him since he declined fighting him after Eddie Offered him on a plate


    Hearn went on for weeks begging for Wilder to accept to fight Whyte instead of fighting Joshua.


    Why do you attempt to speak for anyone else you loon? Most of the boxing scene understand Whyte is a steroid cheating euro level scrub that would get knocked out within 2 rounds.

    It's only MR bots and weird fanatics like you who believe he holds any relevance after sky carried out a campaign to make him seem hard done by.

    Last before before Dave Allen was systemically beaten by Price, some idiots from the mr casuals believe he had ability to beat the likes of Povetkin and eventually challenge for a title against Joshua.

    This is how braindead and moronic casuals like you are. Its only when things actually happen in real time when your overrated and overhyped frauds get splattered across the ring, do you then disappear and act as if you never backed them.

    Being no 1 and mando are two different things you simpleton.

    Ortiz was undefeated and was waiting for a title shot far longer than your boy and a bigger reputation in America

    How many sales did Whyte make when he fought in America? Oh that's right he was on someone else's undercard leeching off their publicity :lol:


    You're boring me repeating the same tripe when I've already explained and given answer



    Ortiz had something Whyte wanted, so why should Ortiz bow down to his demands?

    It's like Breazelle, who offered his mando spot then Dillian began attempting to dictate terms like a spoiled ungrateful steroid driven brat before walking away when he couldn't get his own way.

    That's dillian's fault no one elses.

    Read above you donkey.


    You really believe Whyte has a bigger reputation and bigger net worth than Wilder? Go on... I want to hear it! :)

    AJ is the laughing stock of the division.

    He has more money, yes, but this is boxing not a bank competition you moron.

    Khan has more money in the bank than all the other top welters in the division, yet he has no belts and is also a laughing stock.

    In your world is Khan the best due to his bank balance you utter mong?

    Stop wasting my time posting utter mentally challenged drivel.[/QUOTE]
     
  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    yeah and the author like yourself is a clown, Whyte aint no shield, whyte has beaten tought younger better opponents than Wilder he is the number contender better than Ortiz higher ranked than Ortiz and Fury and is a legit opponent by himself

    All the Hearn said in the video was “Wilder
    Should fight Dilllian and get exposure in UK and then AJ fight would be astronomical”

    Did he say anything about clauses? NO YOU UTTER CRETIN


    I left Fury out because we understand it was a big fight draw, I mentioned those guys specifically because they are no better draw than Whyte and I dont see any ppv numbers for their fights because they dont exist meaning they didnt draw big audiences... whyte draws big audience in his own country ... wilder and his opponens draw crap audiences in their own country ... fact

    Thats bull****, because Wilder making peanuts in USA how is the poor nation In UK generating such huge Ppv draws?? 8 million plus?? If USA is so much bigger??? Dont see any evidence for your crap claims

    On top of that peasant dillian from small market UK put up 9 million to fight Wilder... didnt see ortiz or breazeale or stiverne generate that?? In rich big market america??

    You suck at logic lmao

    That’s rubbish because AJ aint even in WBc rankings, Whyte is, Whyte isnt managed by Eddie he is a free agent... Hearn doesnt make decisions for him... Eddie manages and promotes Hearn under contract.

    Whyte is his own individual, he fights as an individual fighter he is not joined at the hip or related to AJ you ****ing twat

    You cant provide me with a single example of where this type of clause has been used before .. including another fighter as part of an obstacle that is supposedly ‘basic economics and practise’ as stated by yourself, what age did you drop out of school you uneducated turnip?

    Breazeale lost before too and Stiverne funny how they aint on your list

    Disingenuous much? Whole world can read your insincere bs right here.


    And like I said Breazeale and Stiverne were damaged good too, and now Ortiz is damaged too going into the rematch!!! Double standards much?

    The World can see your BS here too look guys Steph missed out these interesting facts about damaged goods

    Besides since when did having a loss affect your ability to fight ?? Tyson Lennox Ali all had loses are they crap as well Steph? Was lennox damaged when he rematched Rahmam??

    Hmm you are officially the dumbest human being in this forum hands down, quote me.


    Whyte beat Chisora twice no matter how close. Chisora subsequently said “give this man his shot” so smoke that in your pipe

    Why does a man responsible for generating 10 times as much PPV buys as Wilder amd Firy combined need to beg Wilder for anything? They are chilling, best performers in the industry and the face of boxing.

    You know what thats fine even if everything you say is true Wilder should have no problem exposing Whyte for being a fraud? Fight him then? He fought Stivern who had a loss

    He fighting Ortiz who had a loss now ... Wilder can come to UK KO Whyte make a statement and make 9 million and go back home same day? If he doesnt do that its a straight up duck! Whats there to lose? If Whyte aint making it past two rounds?

    No logic to say no as Wilder has never made 9 million
    I never said mando and number 1 are the same thing quote me where I said??? Hahaha cant even read english properly ******

    Thats fine we can make the fight in the UK and Wilder will earn more than if it was in the USA fact and guaranteed based on all PPV performances I have supplied in this thread where you confessed you aint am expert

    9 million dollars easy

    What did Ortiz have that Whyte wanted LOL? prune juice? Nah Whyte is young enough

    Source where Whyte ducked the match? Because I have a source where BreAzeale ditched Whyte for Wilder you see as soon as Wilder caught wind that Whyte would fight breazeale for mando he got scared and jumped in to prevemt Whyte getting closer to the title shot... my reasoning??? Made Breazeale wait two years to use his mando as soon as Breazle whyte rumour hovered within two weeks he offered Breazeale his shot and history proves what i daidwas right. I am not lying hahahaha

    Keep taking L’s Stephanie

    If its not about net worth or resume or reputation for you why are comparing Wilder to Whyte in terms of
    Net worth and reputation by saying stuff like “You really believe Whyte has a bigger reputation and bigger net worth than Wilder? Go on... I want to hear it!”

    ?? I am allowed to talk about that stuff because it matters to me but you said it doesnt matter to you so why you contradicting yourself always??

    Whyte earned more money off Chisors than Wilder did from fighting Ortiz so smoke that in your pipe.

    Since when did a crap fighter make tons and tons of cash in boxing??

    Clearly net worth is a strong indication of the performance of a boxer and their standing in the ranking and division and of their success as a boxer but we all know how dumb you are so you say stupid things like bank balance doesnt matter.... dumbasss

    Whyte passed VADA test before and after fighting top 6 contender Rivas so he fought him clean. And won convincingly on the cards, so he is a legit contender unlike Breazeale or Stiverne so why you put down Whyte and elevate stivern and ortiz rematch makes no sense
     
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  4. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Are you thick?

    Wilder said he would fight the roid cheating bum, providing he is guaranteed to fight Joshua after.

    This is on record

    Speaking after Joshua stopped Carlos Takam in Cardiff, Hearn dismissed the idea a fight contract with Whyte would include a Joshua clause. ‘No, it doesn’t work that way,’ said Hearn when asked if Wilder would get a guarantee to fight Joshua.

    It's all irrelevant anyway because today Dillian Whyte is known as a drug cheating scoundrel who has tainted victories on his record.

    If it wasn't for the drugs guys like Chisora and Dave Allen would have wiped the floor with his 1995 bowl hair cut
     
  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    @Sephiroth Rising 7

    yeah and the author like yourself is a clown, Whyte aint no shield, whyte has beaten tought younger better opponents than Wilder he is the number contender better than Ortiz higher ranked than Ortiz and Fury and is a legit opponent by himself

    All the Hearn said in the video was “Wilder
    Should fight Dilllian and get exposure in UK and then AJ fight would be astronomical”

    Did he say anything about clauses? NO YOU UTTER CRETIN


    I left Fury out because we understand it was a big fight draw, I mentioned those guys specifically because they are no better draw than Whyte and I dont see any ppv numbers for their fights because they dont exist meaning they didnt draw big audiences... whyte draws big audience in his own country ... wilder and his opponens draw crap audiences in their own country ... fact

    Thats bull****, because Wilder making peanuts in USA how is the poor nation In UK generating such huge Ppv draws?? 8 million plus?? If USA is so much bigger??? Dont see any evidence for your crap claims

    On top of that peasant dillian from small market UK put up 9 million to fight Wilder... didnt see ortiz or breazeale or stiverne generate that?? In rich big market america??

    You suck at logic lmao

    That’s rubbish because AJ aint even in WBc rankings, Whyte is, Whyte isnt managed by Eddie he is a free agent... Hearn doesnt make decisions for him... Eddie manages and promotes Hearn under contract.

    Whyte is his own individual, he fights as an individual fighter he is not joined at the hip or related to AJ you ****ing twat

    You cant provide me with a single example of where this type of clause has been used before .. including another fighter as part of an obstacle that is supposedly ‘basic economics and practise’ as stated by yourself, what age did you drop out of school you uneducated turnip?

    Breazeale lost before too and Stiverne funny how they aint on your list

    Disingenuous much? Whole world can read your insincere bs right here.


    And like I said Breazeale and Stiverne were damaged good too, and now Ortiz is damaged too going into the rematch!!! Double standards much?

    The World can see your BS here too look guys Steph missed out these interesting facts about damaged goods

    Besides since when did having a loss affect your ability to fight ?? Tyson Lennox Ali all had loses are they crap as well Steph? Was lennox damaged when he rematched Rahmam??

    Hmm you are officially the dumbest human being in this forum hands down, quote me.


    Whyte beat Chisora twice no matter how close. Chisora subsequently said “give this man his shot” so smoke that in your pipe

    Why does a man responsible for generating 10 times as much PPV buys as Wilder amd Firy combined need to beg Wilder for anything? They are chilling, best performers in the industry and the face of boxing.

    You know what thats fine even if everything you say is true Wilder should have no problem exposing Whyte for being a fraud? Fight him then? He fought Stivern who had a loss

    He fighting Ortiz who had a loss now ... Wilder can come to UK KO Whyte make a statement and make 9 million and go back home same day? If he doesnt do that its a straight up duck! Whats there to lose? If Whyte aint making it past two rounds?

    No logic to say no as Wilder has never made 9 million
    I never said mando and number 1 are the same thing quote me where I said??? Hahaha cant even read english properly ******

    Thats fine we can make the fight in the UK and Wilder will earn more than if it was in the USA fact and guaranteed based on all PPV performances I have supplied in this thread where you confessed you aint am expert

    9 million dollars easy

    What did Ortiz have that Whyte wanted LOL? prune juice? Nah Whyte is young enough

    Source where Whyte ducked the match? Because I have a source where BreAzeale ditched Whyte for Wilder you see as soon as Wilder caught wind that Whyte would fight breazeale for mando he got scared and jumped in to prevemt Whyte getting closer to the title shot... my reasoning??? Made Breazeale wait two years to use his mando as soon as Breazle whyte rumour hovered within two weeks he offered Breazeale his shot and history proves what i daidwas right. I am not lying hahahaha

    Keep taking L’s Stephanie

    If its not about net worth or resume or reputation for you why are comparing Wilder to Whyte in terms of
    Net worth and reputation by saying stuff like “You really believe Whyte has a bigger reputation and bigger net worth than Wilder? Go on... I want to hear it!”

    ?? I am allowed to talk about that stuff because it matters to me but you said it doesnt matter to you so why you contradicting yourself always??

    Whyte earned more money off Chisors than Wilder did from fighting Ortiz so smoke that in your pipe.

    Since when did a crap fighter make tons and tons of cash in boxing??

    Clearly net worth is a strong indication of the performance of a boxer and their standing in the ranking and division and of their success as a boxer but we all know how dumb you are so you say stupid things like bank balance doesnt matter.... dumbasss

    Whyte passed VADA test before and after fighting top 6 contender Rivas so he fought him clean. And won convincingly on the cards, so he is a legit contender unlike Breazeale or Stiverne so why you put down Whyte and elevate stivern and ortiz rematch makes no sense
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    You said:

    "Watch and listen From Hearn himself
    Like the author's said - Hearn using Whyte for protection it's like Wesley Snipes character in the film New York city where he picks up someone else's daughter during a gun fight and uses the little girl as a human shield"


    Implying Hearn suggested the idea then backtracked. But he never suggested to it, and doesn't want to agree with it and who can blame him? Just you and the clown author, probably your mom.

    Fact is, Wilder is talking nonsense, and it really doesnt work like that, because if it did, we would know about it as fans, but nobody showing me example of a crappy idea like that ever being implemented.

    Whyte has beautiful resume compared to Wilder, obviously you don't agree, but that's fine, because your opinion is irrelevant, and the majority disagree with you... as usual... as always....your just that guy that no one takes seriously.

    Wilder is laughing stock, 40 fighters, 1 opponent that is good.
     
  7. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    DAZN offered Wilder a 3 fight deal that included fighting Breazelle, and Joshua on the basis of him signing with the television network.

    Parker recently signed a 3 fight deal with Matchroom.

    Danny Jacobs signed a fight deal with Matchroom which involved him fighting Canelo, and then fighting Andrade.

    Outside of Dillian whyte's bum, you have zero knowledge of boxing.

    I'm not going to go round and round in circles destroying your flimsy arguments based that are based on nothing but your emotion and affection for Whyte. I don't have all night reiterating and educating you on the basics in boxing.

    You managed to turn a thread about Joshua's recent interview about Dillian ****ing Whyte who people only care to find out confirmation on how much drugs were in his system

    Beyond that he's seen as fodder for the main top tier heavyweights.
     
  8. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    No worries, you hold fast to these words, I'll check back with you when he fights someone in the top 4 lets say???

    Then you can choke on your words.. although I do recall you saying you had Whyte winning against Ruiz... yet Ruiz is the current champ, and Whyte by your admission is "fodder for the likes of Ruiz"

    I doubt you were ever smart, or succesful in anything in life, let alone boxing. I bet that is the case.
     
  9. emallini

    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You're a ****ing embarrassment
     
  10. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    What on earth are you babbling about?

    Go to bed and dream of Whyte being a champion, because thats the closest place he'll ever get to becoming a real champion beyond holding that counterfeit WBC charity shop belt.
     
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    Whyte is a bum and a cheater!!! His fans are a joke, pure drunks!
     
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  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    No tears please
     
  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whyte will never be a world champion? Okay we'll see.

    You can retire from the forum if that ever happens. If it never happens ill retire.

    Do you accept this bet?