Okay, but to emphasize that with a hell no means you don't consider him to be very close to ATG status, right? Which means he can't rank as that good a win for Ward... and I guess if you are comfortable with SOG being ATG on the strength of the Froch & Kessler wins already, that's fair enough...but do you really think either of them is that high above Kov? Because that would definitely be a minority viewpoint..
I have an opinion which I have the right to and is different from yours evidentially. Hence the childish name calling.
No, you're being a sleazy bigoted hating piece of ****, and I was merely pointing that out. Kovalev at the very least should have gotten a draw with Ward, but in most people's estimation, including Floyd Mayweather Jr. Kovalev actually beat him. To date the Kovalev win is Ward's crowning achievement, a fight that took him two times to win decisively, and when you take into consideration the fouls, it was never decisive. So how can a man have as good a record overall as Ward, arguably beat Ward and get robbed, and currently ranks as Ward's best win, and the reason why Ward.s an ATG, yet Kovalev is not an ATG himself?
That’s right, I don’t consider Kovalev close to atg status and apparently, neither does McGrain who ranked him about 41 on his atg lhw list. I don’t think Kovalev has a win as good as Froch or Kessler why Ward has at least three across two weight classes.
My gut response is "no". He has really good achievements yet also a sort of weirdly forgettable career. He spent a lot of it not doing anything. His fights are barely memorable. Most "greats" you don't have to ask if they are great, it's obvious. With Ward, it's a legit question, but then when you dig for the answer and think about it, I think you'd you have to say "yes".
Oh that's just so devastating to hear. How will I ever recover? Oh that's right! I just ethered you and brutally exposed you for being an agenda having biased scumbag fanboy. There I feel all better.