Kone

Beautiful!!!

 

Oh my god. Lach. I'm on your side as a Rockista for once.

 

Gazelle Punch will see to your coronation

 

I'm surprised anyone here actually thought he beat Fury. Even Holy was completely blown away by the verdict.

Imo Wilder is the undisputed champion of the world today...though I admit to ignorance regarding the top contender of the day (damn me for forgetting his name).

 

Don't bother. The second I see a general put down Ezzard Charles they'll be meeting a whole new fury

 

Get it, Fury? BWA!

Sorry, I'm a total cornball being silly.

 

George Foreman thought Wilder won.

Wilder threw more punches in 11 of the 12 rounds. And Wilder scored two knockdowns. No heavyweight champion has ever lost his title in a fight where he scored two or more knockdowns and wasn't knocked down himself.

It's perfectly fine if people thought Wilder won. He successfully defended his title.

Evander Holyfield, who was "blown away" by the verdict, received a draw against Lennox Lewis in their title fight. And Holyfield didn't floor Lewis TWICE during the fight.

 

That was the joke I was making Rules...

Nah but to compare Wilder to Marciano is as ridiculous as comparing Stiverne to Ezzard Charles

 

Who do you think is the best heavyweight in America, exactly? Wilder can't beat himself.

 

I'm so sorry, I boo-booed. I meant I'm shocked anyone though Fury won. So stupid of me. And Holy also thought Wilder won, rightfully so.

 

I had Deontay ahead three points in the Fury fight, all three times I watched it.

I'd be shocked to hear anyone say Fury won that fight convincingly...

 

Wilder struggles at infighting like Marciano struggled with fighting on the outside.

One guy was a dwarf with the shortest arms of any heavyweight champ. The other is a giant with one of the longest reaches in heavyweight history.

You can count the number of 6'9" 260-pound switch-hitting heavyweight champions Rocky fought on none of his stubby fingers.

 

Yeah, maybe Wilder should fight the light heavyweight champ Kovalev next.

Would he be relevant? Marciano, Louis, Charles, Holmes, Dempsey, Ali, Frazier ... all fought the light heavy champ. Wilder isn't any heavier than most of them were.

Or would you rip him for that, too?

Deontay Wilder is a fine heavyweight champion.

 

Him fighting against Usyk would be better than any win he has so far, so I kind of agree that he could fight lower weightclass champion.

Marciano beat:

Roland LaStarza
Rex Layne
Joe Louis
Harry Matthews
Jersey Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Louis beat:

Primo Carnera
Max Baer
Paulino Uzcudun
Jack Sharkey
Bob Pastor
Jim Braddock
Tommy Farr
Max Schmeling
Arturo Godoy
Buddy Baer
Billy Conn
Lou Nova
Jersey Joe Walcott

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Charles beat:

Joe Louis
Jersey Joe Walcott
Rex Layne
Jimmy Bivins
Joey Maxim
Elmer Ray

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Holmes beat:

Earnie Shavers
Ken Norton
Trevor Berbick
Gerry Cooney
Tim Whitespoon
Carl Williams
Ray Mercer

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Dempsey beat:

Gunboat Smith
Bill Brennan
Billy Miske
Fred Fulton
Jess Willard
Tommy Gibbons
Jack Sharkey

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Ali beat:

Doug Jones
Sonny Liston
Floyd Patterson
Ernie Terrell
Zora Folley
Jerry Quarrey
Oscar Bonavena
Joe Frazier
Jimmy Ellis
Buster Mathis
Mac Foster
Ken Norton
George Foreman
Ron Lyle
Earnie Shavers

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Frazier beat:

Oscar Bonavena
Eddie Machen
Buster Mathis
Jerry Quarry
Jimmy Ellis

all arguably better than Wilder's best win.

Wlider's best wins are:

Luis Ortiz
Bermane Stiverne
Gerald Washington
Dominic Breazale or Artur Szpilka

The last two aren't even worth mentioning. I didn't mention better fighters than Washington in others resumes.

Wilder fought against Marlon Hayes, 5'9 middleweight who didn't fight 5 years before Wilder fight. The fight lasted 4 rounds and the KO was questioned. Why would he be ashamed of fighting the best of the LHW or CW divisions if he fought nobody from MW?

 

You totally ignored Kovalev.

I think you're right. I think Wilder should just fight champions from now on. Fight Kovalev. Fight Beterbiev. Fight Gvozdyk. Fight Briedis. Fight Bivol. Fight Dorticos. Fight Andy Ruiz. Fight Fury.

That's what "the greats" everyone loved did.

Except, if Wilder started demolishing light heavys and cruiserweights, everyone's heads would explode.