Carl Williams

Does anyone else think Larry Holmes looks like an evil version of Martin Luther King?

 

Who was Carl Williams manager in the mid 80s? Was it Carl King?I'm going to go out on a limb fellas and guess that could be the reason for his inactivity. He may have switched managers somewhere along the line. I understand he work with Carmen Graziano who was his trainer not sure if he was also a manager or not. The fact that Holmes fought him in 1985 leads me to believe that he wasn't with Carl King or Don King at the time.
We do know Larry left King because he was tired of getting his money stolen. Williams must have been independent of King to get a shot at the title in 1985.
Getting a title shot in 89 against Tyson probably came with Williams suddenly realizing King was his promoter?

 

I’m not sure but perhaps the Spinks fight was already set and because that ran into a rematch, with all the other champions committed to the HBO series there probably was nowhere for Williams to go. He was kind of swept under the carpet... he was so out options at that time. I seem to remember the faces of Thomas, Tubbs, Witherspoon, Larry And Spinks under a HBO tournament headline in a magazine. No doubt Carl was probably also kept out because of the usual managerial complications as well? But also, the publicity drum was beating for Tyson’s around then which gave Williams eve more to compete with. . Tyson was making a real stir in the division with his funny haircut, boxing shoes and highlight reel snuffing out cans every week or so. The Weaver fight scuppered things for him somewhat as well.

 

I think The Truth would have matched up well with Biggs. Tyrell tried to be a 2nd rate Ali. An amateur style. Williams IMO fought like a Heavyweight.

 

Was a beautiful boxer excellent jab and movement. I really liked to watch his fights really text book stuff was masterful against Cooper .A good fighter to show a young person on video how to box .RIP CHAMP.

 

Williams with a top chin would have been a heckuva fighter.

 

Williams had what could be viewed as a great jab. If he has a bit more power to get respect, he could have gone further.

In some good fights, Williams should be remembered. As he became older he was broke, and actually used to sell dinner with Carl Williams to people who were willing to pay for it.

 

In that Wikipedia/glasses photo he does. You're the first person to mention something that had been on my mind awhile.

 

I always bum out when I see Biggs vs. Tyson. I can't shake the feeling that Biggs really did know how (and trained) to beat Mike, he just abandoned his game plan way too early.

Had Biggs been able to stick to what he'd been training for, the Tyson fight would have gone on significantly longer. That said, nothing could have changed Tyrell's chin, which was quite even mediocre (I could be wrong on that last point, as Tyson and Bowe were unquestionably powerful punchers).

 

I agree with all this. Biggs didn't necessarily have a bad chin, getting TKOd by Tyson and Bowe sure didn't mean he weak in that area. I was wrong.