1951 Archie Moore vs 1927 Gene Tunney

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  1. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Good point.

    That's possible.

    There's only brief highlights of younger Moore fighting Ron Richardson in 1940 - hard to tell how good Moore was back then.

    Against Smith in 1946 he looks excellent already - kinda like Toney with bigger firepower.

    And he looks faster, more agile, with better reflexes than in the latter part of his career.

    The fight, incidentally, took place after the first Ezz fight and before the second one.

    By that time Moore was already campaigning at light heavyweight.

    Too bad Moore footage is scarce - makes it hard to pinpoint the exact moment when Moore started to decline.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    He was a quick technician who could move, he's certainly a more fair analogy to the reserved Tunney than the Charles and Patterson who faced Moore.

    From what's written Charles beat Moore with his two handed power punching, not by outboxing him with speedy mobility.

    And the Patterson who beat Moore was an aggressive swarmer who again beat him with two handed power punching.

    I don't think speed or mobility is a problem for Moore, as much as speed and agggressive power punching is. Tyson, Dempsey, Patterson, early aggressive Charles, ..bad match ups for the Mongoose. Tunney..not so much.
     
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  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tunney would beat Moore with what else,...text book orthodox boxing...and there was no better proponent of that form of fighting than Tunney.
     
    red cobra, May 21, 2012
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  5. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Tunney in an intense technical match up. Moore has his moments, but Tunney would definitely survive any hard shots, and would be incessantly moving.
     
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  6. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can not compare Charles in any way to Dempsey as a puncher. Dempsey was lethal. Charles was along the lines of a boxer puncher.

    Tunney wins a U decision over Moore that is competitive the first five rounds before Tunney takes over. Tunney 10-5 in rounds.
     
    HOUDINI, Aug 30, 2019
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Did you see it? From what I've read it could go Moore's way if you actively try to score rounds for Moore. His team felt he won, and it was obviously close
     
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  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    You can compare Marciano
     
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  9. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano to Dempsey? Marciano can only be compared in terms of punching power to Dempsey.
     
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  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a post!
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tunney wins convincingly , This would look like Archie's fights with Charles, now Tunney vs Ezzard ,that's a tough one
     
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  12. roughdiamond

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    Changed my mind lol. I'm picking Moore now.
     
    roughdiamond, Aug 31, 2019
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  13. Fergy

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    Tunney, he keeps in front thru out the fight. He maybe drops Moore as he comes in.
    Tunney by unanimous.
     
    Fergy, Aug 31, 2019
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  14. ray fritz

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    Tunney was a notch above
     
    ray fritz, Aug 31, 2019
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Marciano>>>> Dempsey

    In a lot of aspects. Power, Competition, Chin, Stamina, Fearlessness, Consistency

    Dempsey has speed, footwork and defence. That's it
     
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