Vasiliy Anatoliyovich Lomachenko vs. Luke Campbell & Hughie Fury vs. Alexander Povetkin RBR.

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  1. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loma 8 rounds to 4 I think.!!!
     
  2. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Even Hayes turning into a fanboy:

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  3. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    who told you that?
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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  5. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Campbell won one round and that was Round 1 because he landed one decent shot to the temple while Loma was essentially inactive.
     
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  6. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    When Loma is compared to Pac what they forget or fail to take into account is that Pac came to the pros as an inexperienced, kid from the ghetto, lean mean fighting machine at a very young age. Loma, by comparison, was a seasoned veteran of the amateur ranks who had already fully grown into his body and was a man. Two completely different roads, so it would be impossible for Loma to duplicate what Pac did, in terms of being a champion in the number of weight divisions. What Loma has done already is unbelievable.
     
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  7. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    You make a great point. What Pacquiao did and is doing will never again be replicated. However, Lomachenko has an amazing legacy defining opportunity to grab a legitimate title at 147 by fighting Manny Pacquiao. The size is not an issue. Salido was the same size as Pac and Linares and Campbell are both bigger/heavier than Pac on fight night. Imagine Lomachenko beating Pac at 147 coming off of a victory over Thurman!
     
  8. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    And people would just say Pac was old and shot if Loma beats him, it's a no win situation for Loma.
     
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  9. Duscle

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    Lol Bud will kill Loma it wont even be a fair fight. Notice Arum said Loma only wants to fight 135 and below. No way on earth he moves to 140. He gets killed there.
     
  10. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    GR8 points, I can't dispute it but I think I can counter it.
    We both know amateur experience doesn't always equate to them adapting to pros. Mark Breland the baddest in his era, was one to prove it.

    Loma's schooling over another pro-Olympian LOL! Rigondeaux lots of am experience was made to look ordinary. This makes me think Vasyl is a special fighter, gifted, talented. The am experience IMO made it more of a plus. So when I see a fighter (any) that wants to win every title in their class, it is the best way of saying-how can anyone be better than me if I have all the major and minor belts?

    . As a result Pac fans (IMO) are forced to defend him on the argument of a ghetto kid with little amateur experience. As opposed to (he cleaned out every division) leaving no doubts as to who was the baddest in the division when Pac was there.

    Another difficult assessment is when we take into account how many others had to take that road like Larry Holmes, got whooped, dropped & stopped as an amateur, even DQ'd for holding, found his school of hard knox as a sparring partner. Yet with the little am experience he became one of our greats. Hopkins another with little am experience. Quite a few took Pac's road.

    I don't discount Pac for it, but I don't give that much credit, because he's not the 1st to make history without Olympic experience, let alone a solid amateur career.


    Pac & Loma IMO are both talented, blessed with physical gifts. Difference to me is (Pac) had the backing of Arum who chose when he would take on fighters...Like Mosley who challenged Pac when he was winning in 2009 as the WBA Super Welter champ
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    . But didn't get it until he lost to Floyd, then had a draw with with who? Mora?:( At that time I asked, why now?
    https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/...s-earnings-promoter-bob-arum-article-1.470754
    I'm not trying to change your mind, nor say you are wrong, rather just giving the other side of the argument. Which is as great as Pac is. As talented as he is, naturally powerful, skip all that PED gossip. He too many is tainted with the timing of the challenges he took, whereas with Loma, there will be no argument when his HOF time comes. All Loma fans have to do is show every belt he held (at the same time)

    Hard fought win tonight. Loma proves he can stop him, outbox em, outlast em!;)
     
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  11. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Had it 117-110 myself, could see a case for 116-111 as well. Thought Loma fought brilliantly despite being massively undersized in there once he found his range, snapping Campbell's head back with his jab often as well as landing slick combos whilst constantly changing angles like he always does.
     
  12. Zhuge Liang

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    After I watch this fight, I am convinced that Luke Campbell is absolutely not an ordinary fighter. He is currenty a higher level boxer than he used to be when he fought Linares. And I believe Campbell can beat both Haney and Lopez.
     
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  13. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also, I'm very suprised at people having Hughie v Povetkin so close. I had it 118-110! You could maybe put a case for 117-111 but Hughie barely landed his jab which Povetkin either parried away or it fell short of the mark, and he doesn't have a right hand where he may have thrown about 5 times all night. Povetkin landed his left hook at will and was landing far more meaningful punches. Definitely not a close fight.
     
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  14. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you serious? There is a huge upside to beating Pacquiao. To be a star you have to beat a star. 140lb. Pacquiao is old but I'd favour him in this one
     
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  15. Cafe

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    How was the British broadcast, I've watched the fight without commentary but since I saw a lot of blocked shots and crowd reacting as if everything Campbell threw was landing, I have a feeling they probably had this close or even for Campbell lol. I was worried they might rob Loma.
     
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