If Lomachenko is this p4p #1 ATG unbeatable force he should fight Bud Crawford

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  1. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I want to see it. I think Lomachenko beats Crawford, and it’s no more difficult than the way he beat Campbell.
    Lomachenko needs the challenges for his talent, he needs to forget about size and go for the biggest prizes. Warm up on Pac, take out Bud. Clean up Mikey once and for all on the way down. The best ever status cemented. Come on Loma.
     
  2. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bud has taken pictures of himself on a scale at home in the 170's
     
  3. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Why hasn’t Crawford fought GGG?? If ‘BUD’ is so good.


    See how easy that is *****?
     
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  4. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    LooooL!!! They are reaching for anything they can now :lol: Hilarious to watch.

    An example here of the sheer discomfort Loma causes for some. LMAO

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    “Loma STRUGGLED doe!”
     
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  5. Duscle

    Duscle Member banned Full Member

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    I feel people are making excuses for Loma - he should step up and fight Crawford. Most ALT step in weight. Loma wont be considered a great unless he moves up to 140 and faces someone like Bud. Loma is like GGG too scared to move up andface challenges.
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh so another midget needs to be fed to Crawdud? What's next, a handicapped one legged midget? Wasn't one handicap enough lmao?
     
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  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    LOL, good points.

    Interesting to see a boxer who fought for a title 1 fight out the gate, been in 13 title fights out of 15 total. No fights against losing record opponents, yet it is time for him to do more, wow.
     
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  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma would get killed, but pac and Loma are around the same size when Pac moved up. If Loma fought at WW tomorrow he would weigh close to 147 as did Mikey. Pac weighed in at 142 for a 147 fight, that’s how tiny he was.

    I can’t even recall a fighter weighing that much under the limit.

    Btw I’m only entertaining this bout because doing the impossible is what ATGs do.

    When Pac climbed to WW to fight ODLH, he had only 1 fight at LW, less than Loma has had now. And people can make claims in hindsight but back then, Pac signed up to fight ODLH who had just taken Floyd to an SD 10 months prior and was on his way back down to WW for a rematch with Floyd.

    Dare to be great. Do the impossible. And the people who remembers the doubts before the fight will give you credit whilst the haters will forget they ever doubted it, constantly moving the goal posts.
     
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  9. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    I have zero interest in Loma vs Crawford, or comparing their wins and careers. This whole reach thing however, keeps getting brought up and is starting to get annoying.

    Is it fair to complain about reach advantage and completely dismiss other things?

    What about speed, power, chin durability and stamina? These are also unique physical traits which gives boxers big advantages and disadvantages as well. Why aren't you complaining these things as well?

    Surely, I don't need to tell you how hard it is for guys like Paulie featherfist to fight some of the fights he's had in his career with his lack of power.

    What's your opinion of Thomas Hearns, do you consider Hearns to be a part of the 4 Kings? He towered over many of his opponents and also had a huge reach advantage over most at 147.

    Leonard fought Hearns with almost the same height and reach disadvantage as Loma (bigger height disparity by 2", lesser reach disparity by 4"). One big difference, Campbell ain't squat next to Tommy Hearns. He doesn't come close to what Hearns could do in the ring, power, speed, movement, skills, resume or achievements. Hearns also sent Duran into outer space by using his huge reach advantage, it sucks for Duran and his fans the way that fight went but that's part of boxing.

    What about Wlad's career, are most of his wins diminished because of his size in your opinion?
     
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  10. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Height and reach falls in the same category as size IMO. So all the above arguments, change reach to size and see if it still holds.

    In a sport that is all about distance control, reach is everything.

    Wlad’s wins aren’t diminished but he’s no contender for p4p.
     
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  11. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Crawford walks around at 180, there was a thread on this before
     
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  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    People called out Mayweather to fight GGG due to the fact Joy said it’d be easy work for him....that’s why not to prove that he is TBE.....because he’s not and never will be TBE.

    Just to *****s
     
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  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Bud starts camp at 180, he’s been a weight bully throughout his early career, Lomachenko isn’t a natural 135 fighter.

    And I don’t think people will care to much about YOUR credit given:yaay
     
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  14. PistolPat

    PistolPat Active Member Full Member

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    Yes it falls in a different category, but it is still something you are born with that gives you an advantage over another. Having a glass chin puts you at a bigger disadvantage than reach does. If Loma was packing pure glass he'd have more losses than he has now.

    Boxing has rules, boxers try to squeeze out every advantage possible within the limits of the rules to succeed in it. If they make weight and are within the rules then that's that. I'm tired of seeing excuses in regards to reach, and I haven't bashed Loma once in regards to his performance today.

    If I was a boxer I would do the same, who wouldn't in prize fighting. Campbell will most likely continue to stick to 135 for the rest of his career because he'd get wrecked at 147. Abusing his reach and height advantage is part of his success, good for him.

    Luke also has the height and reach for WW and could pack on the weight easily with his frame.There's also more money in those divisions, so why hasn't he done so?

    Your a Pac fan, the reason he is able to fight guys with size disparity is because his speed, power, stamina and durability is off the charts. Without them he'd have no shot.
     
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  15. HerolGee

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    Crawford might be Inception but Nomas is Interstellar.

    Not sure Crawford would want a Nomas fight, it would give him Insomnia.