Doesn't Povetkin have to be ranked higher than the likes of Wilder, Fury, Ruiz etc?

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  1. Simon Head

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    Actually the first one was, I remember Haye’s press conference after he beat him, and Haye made one of the press look up his ranking and De More I think his name was, was in the top ten. He was only ranked 100 on Boxrec though.

    The second fighter he fought was ranked 30 on Boxrec, so sure he would be ranked in top ten by some Mickey Mouse organisation too.
     
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    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he had a great amateur career for sure, but that doesnt change the fact that his pro career was never elite.

    you arent advancing your argument one jot. explain what win makes him elite. Just give me one.
     
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  3. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    No.1- I’m not a Joshua fan
    No.2- Ruiz would batter Chagaev
    No.3- clen? It does next to nothing except give you jitters and a rapid heart. I’m not convinced, Chechnya is known for corruption.
    No.4- an elite would handle any version of Browne on clen even if he did
     
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  4. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    You’re right mate. No.10 in WBA
     
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  5. Eggman

    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    Btw, I stand corrected. De mori was ranked no.10 wba when he fought haye
     
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    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes De Mori that's his name and the other guy was Swiss I think?my point being that 20/0 doesn't necessarily equate to being any good in the Heavyweight division.
     
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  7. truth_teller

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    Tell me, is Buster Douglas an elite boxer?
     
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  8. truth_teller

    truth_teller Member banned Full Member

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    Please give me one win that makes Deontay Wilder elite.
     
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    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By beating Dustin "the Worm" Nicols Wilder showed that he can easily defeat his clone Andy Ruiz. Just like by beating Shpilka Wilder showed that he would crush Povetkin.
    Wilder doesn't need to beat elite fighters, he just beats fighters who look similar to them.
     
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    lol, that was good :)
     
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  11. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I like Povetkin but he cant be ranked over Ruiz jr since Andy knocked out the guy who KO'd Sasha in his previous bout
     
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    Eggman "The cream of the crop! Nobody does it better! Full Member

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    No but he beat mike Tyson and actually won real world titles putting him miles above of chag in boxing history
     
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    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Put the pipe down....

    The Russian Hype job is a never was who never picked up a belt, fought nothing but cannon fodder and when he remotely stepped up he lost...........was ragdolled by Glass chinned WK and put out by the Bodybuilder.....went life and death with cream puff Chambers and Huck....short story , Povetkin sucks, while hiding in Russia claiming "not ready" for WK....

    He lost to the same stiff Bodybuilder with a glass jaw who got pasted in his very next fight by a late in fat sub paid to loose.......

    BTW, Wilder ko'es ANY version of AJQUIT cold, that is as good as death and taxes. Fact.
     
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  14. It's Ovah

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    Szpilka fights more like Usyk or Byrd.

    Nichols is definitely a poor man's Ruiz though. Well, not even a poor man's. Just a man's.
     
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  15. truth_teller

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    Not really. Winning a title doesn't mean Buster is a better boxer than Chagaev.

    If that's your logic, Ruiz is better than Wladimir Klitschko because he beat the guy who defeated Klitschko.
     
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