Who was the most overrated heavyweight boxer of all time?

Because you know exactly nothing about this period in boxing history ,[or any other really] I'll educate you.
Dempsey scaled just half a pound over the welter weight limit when he lost his middle weight title to Fizsimmons inJan 1891.
He weighed 142lbs for his last fight withTommy Ryan in Jan1895!

The first recoginized world champion at welterweight was Paddy Duffy in1888 and he held the title for 2 years. I've told you this twice already, and where to find the information too!
But you,being a one -braincell moron cannot, or will not digest and assimilate the information.
Most people here have you on ignore now, I haven't, I keep you just for the entertainment.
You are the most ignorant poster this site has ever had the misfortune of having. You not only know nothing about boxing you haven't the basic decency to ever admit you are wrong and you are wrong ALL THE TIME!
Now **** off and stop polluting this decent thread with your irrelevant,and asinine absurdities!

 

There's no footage of Fulton so I don't see why you're so certain he was unskilled or an oaf. He was very fragile and chinny but he also had stoppages over Gunboat Smith, Fireman Jim Flynn, Charlie Weinert, Frank Moran and the tough John Lester Johnson. He also posted multiple victories over the great Sam Langford (he did enjoy a massive size advantage admittedly) which still means he must've had some ability to go with the size). OK he wasn't a world beater but he was a solid contender and he at least didn't draw the colour line and for that alone he deserves some respect compared to some of his contemporaries.

 

Fulton was a fast boxer with a very good jab he ruined Sam Langford with it , he had good power too.
What footage have you seen of either Morris or Fulton to arrive at your opinion?

 

If you can’t handle the truth get out of the kitchen.

No fighter gets overwhelming and ongoing praise from the experts of their time and is “overrated”. Did Jack Sharkey get praise as the greatest hwt by these same experts? No. Did Willard? No. Expert opinion was so very positive concerning Dempsey because he was that good.

 

Im going to say Ernie Shavers.

One of the biggest knockout records but very poor wins with RELEVANT opponents losing to most and knocking out very low capable guys but most will tell you he's a great ATG bc of his wins, no ….its bc of his knockout clips. But looking into this fighter more one has to scratch ones head and think a bit more on the actual career.

Shavers was tough but the term overatted defines it here, most would have you believe the guy would be a world beater in other eras but what fight ? How would his chin hold up with heavy punchers in other eras ? Hes always put on the higher pedestal to that of other modern/current fighters but why ? Being a 70's fighter doesn't make you a magical being.

 

Where you been fella?

 

Im not allowed to say .

 

Max schmeling by a long shot, it's funny how so many people here overrate max schmeling but underrate max baer even tho he dominated the lesser max, also he was only ever champ because he got punched in the nuts!

Marciano was phenomenal in his era, great puncher and iron jawed but some fan boys want to believe he could take punishment like chuvalo, hit like shavers and beats every fighter from every other era.

Those the two main ones that come to mind anyways.

 

My first choice also. Posters on this site put him of a pedestal, when in fact he was a short, often fat, limited boxer who could punch.
Tua gets more praise out of his quick KO of Ruiz than he should.

 

A real good pick. To me Earnie comes in behind Tua in being overrated. Shavers could certainly punch, but it is not like everytime he landed his big right hand every opponent went to sleep. To keep things in perspective, Shavers lost his fight to Ron Stander. RON STANDER! After Quarry stopped him in one round, couple of fights later Earnie dropped a decision lost to Bob Stallings (who has a losing record).
Shaver then sorta got his act together, with a good showing vs a faded Ali, a couple of fights with Holmes, almost killing an old Norton.
Shavers was a very good contender, he sometimes gets overly praised.

 

IDK for me one has to achieve some historical standing to be overatted to a relevant standard.

Tua doesn't really fit that.

but he had a great short compact left hook he gave us,

He could also be remembered if you were following Holyfield vs Tyson the key to Holyfield adapting to M.Tyson bc Tua was really putting it on Evander and that really prepped him ,not mention PED usage was obvious there ,but besides that is Tua overatted ? I think you should instead rate him on a top Samoan fighter not overate the guy, he gave tough fights with Ike and Lewis.

 

Holyfield in a Ring interview said prepping for Tyson he sparred two other guys then took on Tua last each time.Tua's people told Shelley Finkel, Tua was beating Evander up . When he heard this Holyfield said ,"okay I'll just spar Tua today," and according to Evander he stopped Tua and Tua's team told Finkel "he just beat Tua up!"

 

Yea I believe it,but Tuas tough ,hes not there to stop anyone though ..in sparring the guy prepping for a fight actually has that advantage bc the sparring partners are told to take it easy...some don't. I was never good at sparring myself I had to hit harder then the others bc my reach was short and only way I made up for it was faster puncher which would be a solid shot...Tua was only 5'9 compared to 6'2 Holyfield I imagine if tua wasn't really trying he would get tagged up by longer counter puncher Holyfield.

 

That makes sense.

 

Shavers I don’t believe is overrated. He is rated one of boxing’s premier punchers not a premier fighter. As a puncher he was among boxing’s most powerful.

Schmeling is not overrated. In fact if anything he is absolutely underrated. He was either hwt champion or a leading contender for TEN years. He caused a sensation when he finally come to the US in the late 20’s drawing massive crowds turning thousands away at the gate. His capstone win was knocking out a near prime Joe Louis in one of the greatest technical exhibitions in boxing history. Max was the only fighter ever to beat Louis at or near his prime. At his best he was a calculating technical boxer with a murderous right hand punch.