A Fairly Thorough Explanation As To Why Ruiz's KO Victory Over AJ Was In Fact NOT A Fluke.

BoxingABC1 · Sep 5, 2019

Aydamn said: ↑

At this point you are just deflecting badly.

Bottom line, AJ gets his belts back on December.

CST80 and yourself can hold hands and help each other get through the aftermath/ reality of that outcome.
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You're talking about hallucinations, there's nothing to deflect. You've once again showed how clueless you are, i don't need to speak with people who are as far out of their depth as you are. Have a good evening.

fenoc1 · Sep 5, 2019

Aydamn said: ↑

So what's the difference between a fluke and once off, genius?
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A fluke is when luck is involved. By all accounts with that performance there was no luck involved that night.
A once off refers to as happening on a once of occasion. In this incidence Ruiz beat AJ for a number of reasons. If we are to consider that AJ was not himself on the night than yeah it can be counted as a once off but just as long as there is a clear reversal in the rematch. Only time will tell.

Now as for the above comment calling me a genius- that I most definitely am not but your insecurity and uncertainty of yourself is clear to see by all on this forum. There's no need for any of the words, phrases, threats, insults you use. And I know from my work that it most likely stems as a result of the bad childhood you had or least a mental illness of some form. And for either of those I wish you luck in the future with your attitude you will need it.

Aydamn · Sep 5, 2019

fenoc1 said: ↑

A fluke is when luck is involved. By all accounts with that performance there was no luck involved that night.
A once off refers to as happening on a once of occasion. In this incidence Ruiz beat AJ for a number of reasons. If we are to consider that AJ was not himself on the night than yeah it can be counted as a once off but just as long as there is a clear reversal in the rematch. Only time will tell.

Now as for the above comment calling me a genius- that I most definitely am not but your insecurity and uncertainty of yourself is clear to see by all on this forum. There's no need for any of the words, phrases, threats, insults you use. And I know from my work that it most likely stems as a result of the bad childhood you had or least a mental illness of some form. And for either of those I wish you luck in the future with your attitude you will need it.
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" If we are to consider that AJ was not himself on the night than yeah it can be counted as a once off but just as long as there is a clear reversal in the rematch. Only time will tell."

No worries, I believe AJ was not himself on the night, and we will indeed see in the rematch through a clear reversal.

As for my childhood, it was great, I am loved by so many people in this world. Thank you for wondering.

fenoc1 · Sep 5, 2019

Aydamn said: ↑

" If we are to consider that AJ was not himself on the night than yeah it can be counted as a once off but just as long as there is a clear reversal in the rematch. Only time will tell."

No worries, I believe AJ was not himself on the night, and we will indeed see in the rematch through a clear reversal.

As for my childhood, it was great, I am loved by so many people in this world. Thank you for wondering.
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Never said you weren't loved mate but I know you never felt it. Too much anger inside for a person that felt love. You only know hate. Best wishes

rski · Sep 5, 2019

notjustacasual said: ↑

I haven't entirely ruled out an "injury" happening in this training camp, it'd be one that puts him out for say 9 months so he could lie low and see how the landscape looks. That's really the only way he could avoid a rematch and have a half believable reason for it.
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That sounds very likely to me as well, he would get a lot of stick though, but if he doesn’t feel ready he needs an out. He might even implode in the ring, who knows. He is under that kind of pressure, just something off about it.

Somali Sanil · Sep 5, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

Don't let yourself get fooled, while I'm not a huge fan of AJ, there's a reason why Anthony Joshua beat Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin, Dillian Whyte, Carlos Takam and Joseph Parker. It's because Joshua's power is very real and works as a wickedly powerful deterrent and ultimately an exclamation point against most fighters with weak chins and safety first fighters that don't like taking risks, hell even guys with amazing chins can't be ruled out, he was even able to drop Ruiz after all. Is it Wilder level power? Maybe not, but it's not too far off. Add to that, AJ has a solid command of the fundamentals, decent reflexes, fast hands, is a good combination puncher, decent footwork, and yes good timing. So when you add the power as the ultimate deterrent, that quickly turns what appears to be only a moderately skilled boxer into a fearful beast of a fighter to most fans, so beastly in fact, most of his opponents are terrified of sharing the ring with him. Except for Ruiz, because Ruiz knew that he had his number going in. Hence the aw shucks I can't believed I'm being given this shot mixed with low level Cheshire Cat grin from ear to ear on his face before the fight. Why and how AJ falters against a guy like Ruiz is because he possesses a few qualities that are in every way, shape and form.... AJ's kryptonite. Let me lay them out for you....

While Ruiz has a solid high guard defense, it's what he does with that high guard defense that matters. It's not just a high guard, it's a very active, very involved high guard. Ruiz has immaculate parrying skills, he does it so quickly and effortlessly, that its nearly imperceptible to the human eye. Every time AJ throws a punch, Ruiz's quick ass hands fly up, catch them, push them out of the way, or swat them away, and he does this with both hands and incessantly, it's almost Golovkin like, it's second nature and reflexive, it's fluid, something that's been ingrained in him for years. It's subtle, not obvious in the least, but it's frustrating as hell to AJ. The fact that no matter how many one twos or combinations he attempts, his punches never quite reach their intended destination, not the rights, the jabs, nothing. And because of that, he can't establish a rhythm, and therefore can't do what he does best, which is walk his man down and inflict damage by wearing him down with the jab, because he's so rarely landing flush on him with anything. That tends to mentally really throw fighters off of their game. Meanwhile, while AJ is trying to land his jab, which is incessantly being parried, Andy's is slowly walking him down, backing him up, throwing him out of his rhythm even more and due to is handspeed, is able to get his jab quickly in and out, consistently doing damage of his own, usually to the body, which is incrementally zapping AJ of all of his energy.

Ruiz's head movement is exemplary, not only is his head usually constantly just out of range due to his parrying skills and footwork, but when a punch does get through his defense, he rides with it. He takes the stink off of it, by moving his head with the punch as it connects. So by pulling away instead of going into the punch, he greatly lessens its effectiveness. Most boxers do this to a certain extent, even brawlers that go toe to toe, but not as effectively as Ruiz. They always say it's the punch you don't see coming that does the most damage, well that's true. Because you're not defending against it or prepared for it. Therefore you have to absorb the full impact of it. Well aside from the counter left hook that dropped him, he was ready for and rolled with almost everything that was thrown his way. Also the punches that can hurt you the most are the ones you're moving into, see KTFO6 for example. Pac got KTFO, because he jumped chin first into a shot, that Marquez lunged forward putting his full body weight behind. That was literally the definition of sitting down on a punch. Basically it's the equivalent of two rams charging one another and clashing heads. Only one ram at the last minute weaves out of the way and connects flush on the chin of the other unsuspecting ram and puts his lights out. Well, Ruiz isn't that careless, because unlike most fools, he doesn't rush in.....

Of course there is the whole chin, mental toughness, focus and powers of recovery of Ruiz thing. Most people buckle and mentally quit when they get tagged and dropped like that. Like AJ. Although, some do not and that's something that can't be taught, you just have it or don't. Ruiz got caught with an absolutely murderous left hook on the button, that shot would have KO'd many fighters cold. He hopped back up and shook it off like it was a flash knockdown. Also, since he recovered from it so quickly and retained his focus, due to his grit and mental toughness, he took the fight to AJ, but responsibly. Because he was cognizant that AJ would be going for the kill, so he calmly waited and using his superior defense, handspeed and timing, with laser focus was able to roll with, time him and immediately counter him and in combination inbetween his punches. Like the serenity in the eye of a hurricane.

All the while, Ruiz is consistently landing that heavy authoritative jab to the body, and occasionally tossing in snappy fast two punch combos to the gut, causing AJ, who has a terrible gas tank to begin with, to start sucking air and dropping his hands, leaving his head open as a target.

Also, Andy's offense also serves as his defense. Especially when his opponents are tired. He comes in like a fistic tornado, responsibly, and still jabbing and feinting his way in, then he unleashes the flurry when in range, his opponents automatically shell up or keep their hands at home trying to defend themselves. Meanwhile, his handspeed is so frighteningly fast, he can unleash a 3 or 4, even 6 punch combo, that even if the first two miss or are defended against, the last two will land flush. And speed equals power, especially with heavyweights. After all, what would you rather be hit with? A baseball going 20 miles an hour, or 3 little rubber balls coming at your noggin at 50?

And last, but far from least. This is the most important aspect of all....

He lost to Ruiz, not only because Ruiz has better footwork, faster hands and better defense. He lost to him because Andy is an excellent trap setter and an excellent counter-puncher who counter punches in combination. Andy possesses a rare and somewhat unique asset, its his ability to not only ride with a shot. But to set a trap by baiting him in, get him to throw, roll with the punch as it grazes his chin, and then his head follows Joshua's fist BACK OUT as he draws it back in, using it as a momentarily open door to get inside and land on him before he's able to get it off again. It's almost as if Ruiz is reacting to Joshua's punches as if they're magnets pulling him inward, right back into the front door. It's like timing a cuckoo clock and following the cuckoo back in the door after it pops out. How's that for next level slickness? And yes, that is the next level skillset I'm talking about here.

Think on what I just laid out, mull it over, fully process it, go check out the fight again after taking all of this in, and you'll see exactly what I saw before I picked Ruiz for the upset.

Can AJ land a haymaker that puts Ruiz down for the count in the rematch, this is boxing anything is possible. But it's not going to be that easy is it? Ruiz is a riddle, with a boxing IQ that's several levels higher than AJ's, and that's not just something he can learn how to deal with overnight, especially working with trainers that probably aren't even properly processing why they lost in the first place.

It's not just one of these reasons why AJ lost, its all of them, and in order to beat Ruiz, he's going to have to first decode these copious subtle intangibles that Ruiz brings to the table and learn how deal with every last one of them.

But let's be honest, skills pay the bills, and like most decent but one dimensional fighters, AJ's hit his ceiling, and that ceiling is more than enough to beat 90% of the Heavyweights out there, but.... not Ruiz. Because Ruiz has his number, and will have the number of countless other Heavyweights in the future. This isn't a fluke, Ruiz is not a joke, there was no lucky punch, because Ruiz landed 59 of them (that's a hell of a lot of lucky punches), which gradually broke him down, disconnected him from his senses and ultimately took his heart and soul from his body, put them on a plate, and Ruiz pt some Adobo seasoning on them and feasted upon it, before AJ's very own eyes. Ruiz won every second of this fight, and made AJ his *****. Its as simple as that.
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Anyone that thinks it was a fluke needs to follow another sport, seriously..Ruiz is a pretty complete fighter, great chin and recovery, huge monstrous balls, good IQ..Hes a monster slayer no doubt, he'll do it again..I think he crowds Wilder and beats him up too...Look at his personality then watch him fight, he is the extreme opposite to a bully, I love the fat *******..Someone that moves a lot beats him though, Usyk, even Parker can move very well, but its no given they get the win

Regards Sanil

Aydamn · Sep 5, 2019

Somali Sanil said: ↑

Anyone that thinks it was a fluke needs to follow another sport, seriously..Ruiz is a pretty complete fighter, great chin and recovery, huge monstrous balls, good IQ..Hes a monster slayer no doubt, he'll do it again..I think he crowds Wilder and beats him up too...Look at his personality then watch him fight, he is the extreme opposite to a bully, I love the fat *******..Someone that moves a lot beats him though, Usyk, even Parker can move very well, but its no given they get the win

Regards Sanil
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I didn't say Ruiz Jr's performance was a fluke, I am saying the fact AJ lost to Ruiz in the first fight was a fluke. There is a key difference.

AJ was not on form, and he would beat Ruiz on a normal day.

Clinton · Sep 5, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

Don't let yourself get fooled, while I'm not a huge fan of AJ, there's a reason why Anthony Joshua beat Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin, Dillian Whyte, Carlos Takam and Joseph Parker. It's because Joshua's power is very real and works as a wickedly powerful deterrent and ultimately an exclamation point against most fighters with weak chins and safety first fighters that don't like taking risks, hell even guys with amazing chins can't be ruled out, he was even able to drop Ruiz after all. Is it Wilder level power? Maybe not, but it's not too far off. Add to that, AJ has a solid command of the fundamentals, decent reflexes, fast hands, is a good combination puncher, decent footwork, and yes good timing. So when you add the power as the ultimate deterrent, that quickly turns what appears to be only a moderately skilled boxer into a fearful beast of a fighter to most fans, so beastly in fact, most of his opponents are terrified of sharing the ring with him. Except for Ruiz, because Ruiz knew that he had his number going in. Hence the aw shucks I can't believed I'm being given this shot mixed with low level Cheshire Cat grin from ear to ear on his face before the fight. Why and how AJ falters against a guy like Ruiz is because he possesses a few qualities that are in every way, shape and form.... AJ's kryptonite. Let me lay them out for you....

While Ruiz has a solid high guard defense, it's what he does with that high guard defense that matters. It's not just a high guard, it's a very active, very involved high guard. Ruiz has immaculate parrying skills, he does it so quickly and effortlessly, that its nearly imperceptible to the human eye. Every time AJ throws a punch, Ruiz's quick ass hands fly up, catch them, push them out of the way, or swat them away, and he does this with both hands and incessantly, it's almost Golovkin like, it's second nature and reflexive, it's fluid, something that's been ingrained in him for years. It's subtle, not obvious in the least, but it's frustrating as hell to AJ. The fact that no matter how many one twos or combinations he attempts, his punches never quite reach their intended destination, not the rights, the jabs, nothing. And because of that, he can't establish a rhythm, and therefore can't do what he does best, which is walk his man down and inflict damage by wearing him down with the jab, because he's so rarely landing flush on him with anything. That tends to mentally really throw fighters off of their game. Meanwhile, while AJ is trying to land his jab, which is incessantly being parried, Andy's is slowly walking him down, backing him up, throwing him out of his rhythm even more and due to is handspeed, is able to get his jab quickly in and out, consistently doing damage of his own, usually to the body, which is incrementally zapping AJ of all of his energy.

Ruiz's head movement is exemplary, not only is his head usually constantly just out of range due to his parrying skills and footwork, but when a punch does get through his defense, he rides with it. He takes the stink off of it, by moving his head with the punch as it connects. So by pulling away instead of going into the punch, he greatly lessens its effectiveness. Most boxers do this to a certain extent, even brawlers that go toe to toe, but not as effectively as Ruiz. They always say it's the punch you don't see coming that does the most damage, well that's true. Because you're not defending against it or prepared for it. Therefore you have to absorb the full impact of it. Well aside from the counter left hook that dropped him, he was ready for and rolled with almost everything that was thrown his way. Also the punches that can hurt you the most are the ones you're moving into, see KTFO6 for example. Pac got KTFO, because he jumped chin first into a shot, that Marquez lunged forward putting his full body weight behind. That was literally the definition of sitting down on a punch. Basically it's the equivalent of two rams charging one another and clashing heads. Only one ram at the last minute weaves out of the way and connects flush on the chin of the other unsuspecting ram and puts his lights out. Well, Ruiz isn't that careless, because unlike most fools, he doesn't rush in.....

Of course there is the whole chin, mental toughness, focus and powers of recovery of Ruiz thing. Most people buckle and mentally quit when they get tagged and dropped like that. Like AJ. Although, some do not and that's something that can't be taught, you just have it or don't. Ruiz got caught with an absolutely murderous left hook on the button, that shot would have KO'd many fighters cold. He hopped back up and shook it off like it was a flash knockdown. Also, since he recovered from it so quickly and retained his focus, due to his grit and mental toughness, he took the fight to AJ, but responsibly. Because he was cognizant that AJ would be going for the kill, so he calmly waited and using his superior defense, handspeed and timing, with laser focus was able to roll with, time him and immediately counter him and in combination inbetween his punches. Like the serenity in the eye of a hurricane.

All the while, Ruiz is consistently landing that heavy authoritative jab to the body, and occasionally tossing in snappy fast two punch combos to the gut, causing AJ, who has a terrible gas tank to begin with, to start sucking air and dropping his hands, leaving his head open as a target.

Also, Andy's offense also serves as his defense. Especially when his opponents are tired. He comes in like a fistic tornado, responsibly, and still jabbing and feinting his way in, then he unleashes the flurry when in range, his opponents automatically shell up or keep their hands at home trying to defend themselves. Meanwhile, his handspeed is so frighteningly fast, he can unleash a 3 or 4, even 6 punch combo, that even if the first two miss or are defended against, the last two will land flush. And speed equals power, especially with heavyweights. After all, what would you rather be hit with? A baseball going 20 miles an hour, or 3 little rubber balls coming at your noggin at 50?

And last, but far from least. This is the most important aspect of all....

He lost to Ruiz, not only because Ruiz has better footwork, faster hands and better defense. He lost to him because Andy is an excellent trap setter and an excellent counter-puncher who counter punches in combination. Andy possesses a rare and somewhat unique asset, its his ability to not only ride with a shot. But to set a trap by baiting him in, get him to throw, roll with the punch as it grazes his chin, and then his head follows Joshua's fist BACK OUT as he draws it back in, using it as a momentarily open door to get inside and land on him before he's able to get it off again. It's almost as if Ruiz is reacting to Joshua's punches as if they're magnets pulling him inward, right back into the front door. It's like timing a cuckoo clock and following the cuckoo back in the door after it pops out. How's that for next level slickness? And yes, that is the next level skillset I'm talking about here.

Think on what I just laid out, mull it over, fully process it, go check out the fight again after taking all of this in, and you'll see exactly what I saw before I picked Ruiz for the upset.

Can AJ land a haymaker that puts Ruiz down for the count in the rematch, this is boxing anything is possible. But it's not going to be that easy is it? Ruiz is a riddle, with a boxing IQ that's several levels higher than AJ's, and that's not just something he can learn how to deal with overnight, especially working with trainers that probably aren't even properly processing why they lost in the first place.

It's not just one of these reasons why AJ lost, its all of them, and in order to beat Ruiz, he's going to have to first decode these copious subtle intangibles that Ruiz brings to the table and learn how deal with every last one of them.

But let's be honest, skills pay the bills, and like most decent but one dimensional fighters, AJ's hit his ceiling, and that ceiling is more than enough to beat 90% of the Heavyweights out there, but.... not Ruiz. Because Ruiz has his number, and will have the number of countless other Heavyweights in the future. This isn't a fluke, Ruiz is not a joke, there was no lucky punch, because Ruiz landed 59 of them (that's a hell of a lot of lucky punches), which gradually broke him down, disconnected him from his senses and ultimately took his heart and soul from his body, put them on a plate, and Ruiz pt some Adobo seasoning on them and feasted upon it, before AJ's very own eyes. Ruiz won every second of this fight, and made AJ his *****. Its as simple as that.
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Excellent breakdown. Well done!!!!

lepinthehood · Sep 5, 2019

complete opposite of a fluke. AJ is going to get bashed up again in the 2nd fight, but he might be able to bash up Ruiz a bit more this time.

iii · Sep 5, 2019

CST80 said: ↑

Don't let yourself get fooled, while I'm not a huge fan of AJ, there's a reason why Anthony Joshua beat Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin, Dillian Whyte, Carlos Takam and Joseph Parker. It's because Joshua's power is very real and works as a wickedly powerful deterrent and ultimately an exclamation point against most fighters with weak chins and safety first fighters that don't like taking risks, hell even guys with amazing chins can't be ruled out, he was even able to drop Ruiz after all. Is it Wilder level power? Maybe not, but it's not too far off. Add to that, AJ has a solid command of the fundamentals, decent reflexes, fast hands, is a good combination puncher, decent footwork, and yes good timing. So when you add the power as the ultimate deterrent, that quickly turns what appears to be only a moderately skilled boxer into a fearful beast of a fighter to most fans, so beastly in fact, most of his opponents are terrified of sharing the ring with him. Except for Ruiz, because Ruiz knew that he had his number going in. Hence the aw shucks I can't believed I'm being given this shot mixed with low level Cheshire Cat grin from ear to ear on his face before the fight. Why and how AJ falters against a guy like Ruiz is because he possesses a few qualities that are in every way, shape and form.... AJ's kryptonite. Let me lay them out for you....

While Ruiz has a solid high guard defense, it's what he does with that high guard defense that matters. It's not just a high guard, it's a very active, very involved high guard. Ruiz has immaculate parrying skills, he does it so quickly and effortlessly, that its nearly imperceptible to the human eye. Every time AJ throws a punch, Ruiz's quick ass hands fly up, catch them, push them out of the way, or swat them away, and he does this with both hands and incessantly, it's almost Golovkin like, it's second nature and reflexive, it's fluid, something that's been ingrained in him for years. It's subtle, not obvious in the least, but it's frustrating as hell to AJ. The fact that no matter how many one twos or combinations he attempts, his punches never quite reach their intended destination, not the rights, the jabs, nothing. And because of that, he can't establish a rhythm, and therefore can't do what he does best, which is walk his man down and inflict damage by wearing him down with the jab, because he's so rarely landing flush on him with anything. That tends to mentally really throw fighters off of their game. Meanwhile, while AJ is trying to land his jab, which is incessantly being parried, Andy's is slowly walking him down, backing him up, throwing him out of his rhythm even more and due to is handspeed, is able to get his jab quickly in and out, consistently doing damage of his own, usually to the body, which is incrementally zapping AJ of all of his energy.

Ruiz's head movement is exemplary, not only is his head usually constantly just out of range due to his parrying skills and footwork, but when a punch does get through his defense, he rides with it. He takes the stink off of it, by moving his head with the punch as it connects. So by pulling away instead of going into the punch, he greatly lessens its effectiveness. Most boxers do this to a certain extent, even brawlers that go toe to toe, but not as effectively as Ruiz. They always say it's the punch you don't see coming that does the most damage, well that's true. Because you're not defending against it or prepared for it. Therefore you have to absorb the full impact of it. Well aside from the counter left hook that dropped him, he was ready for and rolled with almost everything that was thrown his way. Also the punches that can hurt you the most are the ones you're moving into, see KTFO6 for example. Pac got KTFO, because he jumped chin first into a shot, that Marquez lunged forward putting his full body weight behind. That was literally the definition of sitting down on a punch. Basically it's the equivalent of two rams charging one another and clashing heads. Only one ram at the last minute weaves out of the way and connects flush on the chin of the other unsuspecting ram and puts his lights out. Well, Ruiz isn't that careless, because unlike most fools, he doesn't rush in.....

Of course there is the whole chin, mental toughness, focus and powers of recovery of Ruiz thing. Most people buckle and mentally quit when they get tagged and dropped like that. Like AJ. Although, some do not and that's something that can't be taught, you just have it or don't. Ruiz got caught with an absolutely murderous left hook on the button, that shot would have KO'd many fighters cold. He hopped back up and shook it off like it was a flash knockdown. Also, since he recovered from it so quickly and retained his focus, due to his grit and mental toughness, he took the fight to AJ, but responsibly. Because he was cognizant that AJ would be going for the kill, so he calmly waited and using his superior defense, handspeed and timing, with laser focus was able to roll with, time him and immediately counter him and in combination inbetween his punches. Like the serenity in the eye of a hurricane.

All the while, Ruiz is consistently landing that heavy authoritative jab to the body, and occasionally tossing in snappy fast two punch combos to the gut, causing AJ, who has a terrible gas tank to begin with, to start sucking air and dropping his hands, leaving his head open as a target.

Also, Andy's offense also serves as his defense. Especially when his opponents are tired. He comes in like a fistic tornado, responsibly, and still jabbing and feinting his way in, then he unleashes the flurry when in range, his opponents automatically shell up or keep their hands at home trying to defend themselves. Meanwhile, his handspeed is so frighteningly fast, he can unleash a 3 or 4, even 6 punch combo, that even if the first two miss or are defended against, the last two will land flush. And speed equals power, especially with heavyweights. After all, what would you rather be hit with? A baseball going 20 miles an hour, or 3 little rubber balls coming at your noggin at 50?

And last, but far from least. This is the most important aspect of all....

He lost to Ruiz, not only because Ruiz has better footwork, faster hands and better defense. He lost to him because Andy is an excellent trap setter and an excellent counter-puncher who counter punches in combination. Andy possesses a rare and somewhat unique asset, its his ability to not only ride with a shot. But to set a trap by baiting him in, get him to throw, roll with the punch as it grazes his chin, and then his head follows Joshua's fist BACK OUT as he draws it back in, using it as a momentarily open door to get inside and land on him before he's able to get it off again. It's almost as if Ruiz is reacting to Joshua's punches as if they're magnets pulling him inward, right back into the front door. It's like timing a cuckoo clock and following the cuckoo back in the door after it pops out. How's that for next level slickness? And yes, that is the next level skillset I'm talking about here.

Think on what I just laid out, mull it over, fully process it, go check out the fight again after taking all of this in, and you'll see exactly what I saw before I picked Ruiz for the upset.

Can AJ land a haymaker that puts Ruiz down for the count in the rematch, this is boxing anything is possible. But it's not going to be that easy is it? Ruiz is a riddle, with a boxing IQ that's several levels higher than AJ's, and that's not just something he can learn how to deal with overnight, especially working with trainers that probably aren't even properly processing why they lost in the first place.

It's not just one of these reasons why AJ lost, its all of them, and in order to beat Ruiz, he's going to have to first decode these copious subtle intangibles that Ruiz brings to the table and learn how deal with every last one of them.

But let's be honest, skills pay the bills, and like most decent but one dimensional fighters, AJ's hit his ceiling, and that ceiling is more than enough to beat 90% of the Heavyweights out there, but.... not Ruiz. Because Ruiz has his number, and will have the number of countless other Heavyweights in the future. This isn't a fluke, Ruiz is not a joke, there was no lucky punch, because Ruiz landed 59 of them (that's a hell of a lot of lucky punches), which gradually broke him down, disconnected him from his senses and ultimately took his heart and soul from his body, put them on a plate, and Ruiz pt some Adobo seasoning on them and feasted upon it, before AJ's very own eyes. Ruiz won every second of this fight, and made AJ his *****. Its as simple as that.
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Spot on, conclusion, Ruiz = speed- movement - durable & "REAL" boxing experience = Heavyweight champion of the World.
Some keep on how AJ went for the KO with head down & got caught...true he did, so big mistake on AJ part = inexperience (or contemptuous ego more like) .
So is AJ going to fight tall & get clipped with his head up? Or is he going to peek boo & get even less mobile & wait for the World Champion to crack his ribs & clip his head when shoots up in pain? If gets behind his jab he's going to gas(again), if he comes forward to walk the Heavyweight champion of the World down he'll get stopped ...early AGAIN LOL
AJ should trim down & get some experience from Parkers trainer Barry, he might get somewhere then.
McKraken is OK but a one size trainer he ain't ...

iii · Sep 5, 2019

Aydamn said: ↑

It is a fluke if AJ wins the second. AJ is only guilty of his inability to adjust inside the fight, some guys like lewis take a shot and stay down from the concussion, AJ just fought on... he fought on with a concussion and had no idea what was going on.

AJ is tough as nails. He'll make the required adjustments and come back like a beast with a plan.
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Yeah so what does that tell you ? 1 his corners inexperience (or they don't care £££ do)
Tough as nails ,probably true ,so was Bruno, look at the Lewis fight. Bruno took around 20 unanswered shots along the ropes ...he was out of it by the 3rd shot, he never went down, tough as nails, same thing when he fought Witherspoon & Tyson tough as nails ...NO inexperience. Lewis taking a knee is what we're all told , when you get buzzed take a knee, then hang on or dance if you can til the end of the round...or do a Nigel Benn & turn into a bengal tiger but AJ ain't that guy( not many are). AJ didn't adjust, he was asking repeatedly , what hit me , what round , why am I feeling like this....FFS his corner lost him that fight...& I can't see him winning with those guys still there, when he was in the trenches he was ALONE, they did not know what to tell him!

Beyonce Wilder · Sep 5, 2019

do you think AJ will be able to utilize his reach and height advantage next fight and basically klincksko his way to a UD12?

Aydamn · Sep 5, 2019

iii said: ↑

Yeah so what does that tell you ? 1 his corners inexperience (or they don't care £££ do)
Tough as nails ,probably true ,so was Bruno, look at the Lewis fight. Bruno took around 20 unanswered shots along the ropes ...he was out of it by the 3rd shot, he never went down, tough as nails, same thing when he fought Witherspoon & Tyson tough as nails ...NO inexperience. Lewis taking a knee is what we're all told , when you get buzzed take a knee, then hang on or dance if you can til the end of the round...or do a Nigel Benn & turn into a bengal tiger but AJ ain't that guy( not many are). AJ didn't adjust, he was asking repeatedly , what hit me , what round , why am I feeling like this....FFS his corner lost him that fight...& I can't see him winning with those guys still there, when he was in the trenches he was ALONE, they did not know what to tell him!
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Dude... what are you talking about man... his corner clear gave him the right instructions.. AJ just didn't listen... either because his pride got in the way or he was too concussed to process what he was told, and to deliver it... just an unfortunate case of a very dazed man trying to fight on.

It is not AJ's teams fault at all... they did not prepare to fight Ruiz, they prepared to fight Milller...

AJ lost that fight because he was not on form mentally, because he failed to adapt either because he was too dazed or because he was too prideful, it's questionable.. eitherway both are bad signs.

Anyways, I am confident all that is needed are MINOR adjustments, and he will come back very strong.. he knows what to expect now.

Aydamn · Sep 5, 2019

@BoxingABC1 @CST80

Ill tell you the problem you two have, you speak with such confidence about your set in stone verdicts but not willing to place a forum bet on the situation... no cahonas???

You talk as if your prediction can't go wrong so then back it up.

Forum bet

BoxingABC1 · Sep 5, 2019

Aydamn said: ↑

@BoxingABC1 @CST80

Ill tell you the problem you two have, you speak with such confidence about your set in stone verdicts but not willing to place a forum bet on the situation... no cahonas???

You talk as if your prediction can't go wrong so then back it up.

Forum bet
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How are you still raging

Go on....

And btw, we can’t be unwilling to do it before you’d even offered it. Try and calm down a bit

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