My top 10 p4p Americans

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  1. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    :lol: I am not talking about Spence. I am not even saying that he should be above Davis or Russell.
    You are the one who brought up Spence.
    What I asked was why Davis and Russell deserved to up so high?
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Davis is a mini tank who bulldozes through guys with savage destruction. Gary Russell Jr. is the fastest man in boxing and gave Loma a tough fight.
     
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    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Who did they beat? Can you name any credible names?
    And Russell's claim to fame is a loss?
     
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    David Benavidez
    Michael Hunter Jr.
    J Rock
    Jose Ramirez
    Rougarou
    Oscar Valdez
    Vergil Ortiz

    Can't think of anymore

    Talent wise GRJ is right up there and let's not forget that he did KO Terence Crawford in a street fight the later of whom many seem to rate highly and a little too highly if you ask Serge.
     
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    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    the ops list is 10fighters who are american level which is 5 levels below british level, 4 below world level, 3 below european level, 2 below commonwealth level, and one below southern area level.
     
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    It is ridiculous, but..he's beaten Mikey. That is a fact, a fact we can't escape from. And if Mikey was any good, he'd have at least won a couple of rounds despite the size disadvantage, but he didn't win a couple. He might have won one round maybe at a stretch in that fight, but on a lot of cards it was a 12-0 situation.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nah. Spence wouldnt win a round off Usyk.
     
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    :lol: That's why I thought I'd throw in some ones who are capable of hanging at or rather just below British Level.
     
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    How is Spence fighting a heavyweight comparable to Garcia moving up for Spence lol. It’s more relative to Spence versus Canelo/GGG, and Spence would be competitive at the very least in those fights.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not even close. Garcia is a Featherweight champ. And Canelo is a JMW champ.
     
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    Garcia was a decent sized JWW, he moved up one division to fight Spence. Usyk is 6 divisions above Spence and 50lbs+ heavier on fight night. It’s a terrible comparison.
     
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    Garcia moved up from Featherweight.
     
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    Bit harsh? Davis is like 23? Spence has a lot more in him. Ruiz could beat Joshua again and surprise a few people. Progaris could become undisputed.

    The rest don’t have age on their side.

    I’m Scottish so pretty neutral
     
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    I really must be missing something. How on earth can you rate Crawford # 1 P4P ?? He's been called " The Cold Eyed Assassin" etc Why?? Whats he done who has he beat ??
    To be honest I find his Mother more dangerous & scarey than he is. Maybe if he fought somebody remotely dangerous I'd see what I'm obviously missing?