Fury looking in tremendous shape

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  1. tylerdurden

    tylerdurden It's OK to have beliefs, just don't believe them Full Member

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    Most likely scenario;
    Ruiz too fast for robotic Joshua again.
    Ruiz is pissed that Parker got the only W against him, so wants to fight Parker.
    Parker is the only heavy (apart from Usyk) who is fast enough for Ruiz, and wins again.
    Parker fights Fury (who thrashes Wilder) and loses 120 - 108

    Or Ruiz beats Parker, then we see a replay of Lewis vs Tua as Tyson jabs Ruiz into oblivion.

    Or Joshua beats Ruiz (likely a steal on the cards) and Fury easily dismantles Joshua.

    I know all you Wilder fans are wondering why I haven't factored that in, and that's because I can't see how such an inferior boxer, who hit a guy with his best punch, and still didn't win, will win this time.

    Fury wins all ways. However you play it, and whoever wins, Fury wins all the belts.
    He's a giant who can move, and I wasn't sure about his heart, but that shot he got up from when Wilder hit him, proved he is the real deal.

    He has reach, he can box southpaw, his foot movement is amazing for a man of his size.
    He is also a bit of a dinosaur with views that don't necessarily agree with mine, but he's a 6"9 gypsy boxer ffs.

    I don't see anyone in history beating him, if he's at his best.
    I thought Lennox was the best. Not sure about Vitali. The older guys are just too small.
    All sport moves on, with the mantra "bigger, stronger, faster"
    Can't wait to see what Tyson brings over the next 2 years.

    And I'm a massive Parker fan, but he's just too small unless he gets lucky.
    Usyk is fast, but 6"9? He can't really do much, which is why there are weight divisions.
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mass weight loss is not an excuse for anything. It weakens someone until their body adjusts.
    I don't see what you mean by excuse? Fury looked a clear winner and finished the fight in control with wilder holding.
    Fury I think fights to the level of his opposition. He looked impressive slipping punches against Schwarz
     
  3. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Fury will be undisputed in the next 18 months or so
     
  4. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get ready for Flash and Thunder!
     
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  5. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don’t think wilder will adjust, people are saying he learned more from the first fight but has he shown one bit of evidence in his career that he can adjust? Is he really going to come in with a slick new game plan and befuddle fury? There are greater fighters than wilder that have not been able to adjust drastically from being outboxed. Even if he did, fury has the ability to adjust on the fly, he is just a better more dynamic boxer. Wilder’s only chance is to catch him again, which is obviously possible over 12 rounds. But if fury is in better shape that the first fight it’s his fight imo.
     
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  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I honestly don't see much for power there, mostly looks like borderline pitty-pat. What an erroneously named video.

    Imo Wilder already beat Fury (off the cards of course)...I certainly doubt Deontay would be worried at all after seeing this video.
     
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  7. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, a clear winner doesn’t get dropped 2 times... also, since you didn’t answer my question I take that as you haven’t seen a better performance by Fury which means that the weight loss and what ever excuses ppl have didn’t effect him. Fury fought the perfect fight and still almost died.

    Btw Schwarz is a disgrace to heavyweight boxing.
     
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  8. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First part of the statement I sympathize with completely...also, how did Fury fight the perfect fight when he was dropped twice?

    Want to see a perfect fight? Watch Shavers-Holmes I. There might not have been a more perfect heavyweight fight since, really.

    I had Wilder ahead by two points over Fury, to me the former's victory was apparent (as it was to Holy sitting ringside).
     
  9. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Hes wearing Mexican stuff? LoL
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    read again
    I did answer your question. I said Fury looked impressive slipping punches against Schwarz.
    How is Schwarz a disgrace? Who had he lost to before Fury?
    You could say who has he fought but similar can be said for many, arguably including wilder before the Fury fight.

    How did Fury almost die? Are you forgetting he finished the stronger or just being selective.

    You say a clear winner doesn't get dropped twice which is ridiculous as wlad looked a clear winner against peters even though he was dropped more than once.
    Many feel Marquez looked the winner in some of his fights with Pacquiao.

    To me Fury looked a clear winner and I doubt a clear loser would have a member of his opponents team say to him straight after that he won which is what happened in that fight
     
  11. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    The Wilder making adjustments might help, but I dont think he has the mental capacity to employ anything he's taught in the gym. Fury is now in better shape, so can actually fight harder at a faster pace and throw more shots. The accumulation of being hit more frequently can and likely will change the dynamic of the fight further in his favour.

    Wilders jab while fast is pretty useless, it's used as a measuring stick, but Fury had zero problem neutralising it and countering off it, so I'd expect it to be even less a factor in the return. That's my opinion at least anyway, could well be wrong and Wilder sticks and moves and wins a UD!
     
  12. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Liposuction would easily take care of those love handles since he can't seem to get rid of them. Once the fat cells have been removed from the area they won't return. It's a fairly simple and safe procedure that would improve his appearance dramatically.
     
  13. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Wilder will beat Fury, IF they fight again.
     
  14. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's what I took away from the first fight.

    Imo, Deontay is really in need of a Lewis/Steward revelation. Should something similar to that happen, and Deontay finds a great jab within him, Fury will be out of there in ten rounds.

    If not, Wilder will win the decision, easy this time.
     
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  15. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    100%, Fury was fortunate last time out. He knows it as well. He will continue to fight tomato cans until its time to cash out. He will drag the Wilder fight out as much as he can. He is hoping he gets in a war with Ortiz so that may take something out of him. Fury a very intelligent fella, master of deception. I like Fury but that's the truth.