The 147-pound Division is Appalling

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Spence. Obviously.

    But until he beats people who aren't drained or coming up in weight he's definitely not above Warrington

    Frampton, Selby and Galahad > drained Brook and moving up 2 weights Garcia
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Résumé.

    Selby, Galahad and Frampton > drained Brook and moving up two weights Garcia
     
  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Pfp is more about skill than resume i thought? can you really argue Brook was drained when he'd only ever fought above 147 once and he was a fish out of water when he did? You also have to take in account the performances not just the end result. Spence has looked dominant for the most part can you say the same about Warrington ?
     
  4. George Crowcroft

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    I've thought the opposite, if it's about skill then yeah, of course Spence is better.
    He's always had issues making 147, I thought that was well known. Also I imagine after being stabbed in the leg it's hard to do sprits and use bikes as effectively as before.

    He was also like a fish out of the water because it was against an elite, borderline ATG like GGG. Had he been in with Andrade or Charlo he'd have done better.
     
  5. PunchersChance.

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    P4p is about assessing who the best fighters are relative to their weight, according to this criteria you rank Spence higher. It’s not simply who has the better resume (although I don’t understand how close wins over euro level guys like Selby and Kid Galahad put him above Spence in that department).
     
  6. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Issues making 147? You couls argue the same for many welters including Spence. You have a list of eexcuses I'm sure I could drum some up for Warrington opponents if I dug hard enough. Ggg a Border line atg based on what? Certainly not resume as you seem to use as a criteria for greatness
     
  7. TheMotorCityCobra

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    McDonnell is very mediocre. Uncoordinated, weak, no power. C'mon, man. He's not underrated, he's just not that good.

    I don't know anyone who thought Rodriquez would beat Inoue, after watching him barely eek by Moloney, in a fight I thought was a draw, I knew Inoue would blow his doors off. Bantam is so thin that Donaire at 36 and well past it, is top 5 in the division.
     
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  8. TheMotorCityCobra

    TheMotorCityCobra Active Member Full Member

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    I just can't rate anyone at LightFly anywhere near p4p, just a personal preference. For me the division is way to thin. I believe there are only like 4 or 5 Americans active at that weight. There's no Eastern Bloc fighters at that weight, it's just too limited for my liking. The number of athletes that small are very few and far between. But to each their own. A couple of my buddies love the lower weight classes and we argue about them all the time. I have a hard time watching pro fighters that are smaller than my 10 year old nephew. Simply my opinion. But to each their own.
     
  9. BoxingABC1

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    i see where you're coming from r.e their size, but thats what normally makes for great fights, as they can throw a lot more punches. And just because the division isn't full up with Americans or Europeans doesn't make them thin either. As you say, to each his own.
     
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  10. dougemerypm

    dougemerypm Active Member Full Member

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    Apparently you can't see that PBC has locked him out. THEY DON'T WANT TO FIGHT HIM. If they thought they could get his belt they would make a fight. Have Haymon offer up a fight and if Crawford turns it down you have a case to blame Crawford. Until then you are blaming the wrong side
     
  11. POTUS

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    If Porter Smashes Spence it restores the division imo.

    Spence is a phony I wouldn't be shocked if he challenged Leo Santa Cruz or Lonachenko. He's nothing more than a weight bully