Loma v Manny`s opposition how well would he have done?

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I agree with that. Pac was basically an unknown though.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    For me Morales and Barrera don't beat Loma, they have good chances but I favour Lomachenko.

    I think Marquez would get him, he doesn't have the chin of Pacquiao or the speed and power. Loma hasn't faced anyone who can match his counter punching skills and I think Marquez could and would land heavy. He'd lose rounds before he stops him but I think he would stop him and quite brutally.

    Linares landed Marquez's best punch on Loma and had him down, I can't help seeing Marquez doing the same until Loma can't continue
     
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  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I favour Morales over Loma, and I feel Barrera could pull it off. I used to favour Loma over Marquez due to the Norwood and John bouts, but I think that's a mistake now as Loma doesn't favour boxing anything like that, he prefers volume and center ring. No one as good as Marquez has tried punching with Loma, and Loma doesn't really punch with his opponents. He's pretty 'soviet' like that. Marquez could land some viscious shots.
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Loma probably would've had the same tough time Pac had at Feather when Marquez countered his way to a draw by out landing Pac most of the fight. Not sure if he would have gotten schooled and busted up like Pac did in Morales I.

    The MAB fight is difficult to predict since Pac beat him down 1st time then settled for a decision with a safety first MAB in fight 2.
    I think Loma wins simply due to MAB being 14 years old in fights had they met same time as Pac did (2003) who debuted 1989.

    Loma beats Velazquez, Solis, Larios, Beats Down David Diaz just as bad as Pac did, ony difference is he stays to fight the other champs, since that is what he does now: seeks to unify. He beats Baby Bull, Katsidis, Campbell & Casamayor. FOTY vs Freitas, not sure what class they meet at, but Freitas power keeps in him, but Loma would outpace him.

    Can't say how Loma vs JMM II or III would do since JMM had longevity like Pac. Loma would split vs JMM.
    Since DLH's biggest wins in 10 years was Mayorga & Vargas, not sure how that would have played out. Moving UP to Middle only to rob Sturm. out landed by 100 punches against Floyd & Pac, I can see a busy Loma getting that win as well. Oscar just couldn't win the big fights in his prime, then how so 16 years later?

    Loma drubs Ricky Hatton as opposed to a one punch KO, who unlike Salido can fight inside with questionable tactics, Ricky simply mauls inside.
    Won't comment outside a weight class he has yet to fight at.

    JMM, Morales, they have the same star studded list as Pac. Loma stands a chance to unify Feather & LW that Pac fought at. I don't think he unifies welter, since he isn't one currently.
     
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  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a brutal schedule. You think he could handle that kind of run in boxing?

    Those are not for the feint hearted.

    I think Loma might have age on his side and youth so yeah, maybe.

    He is already getting dropped by the likes of Linares.

    And hurt by Campbell. What more Morales and Marquez lands on him.

    Also he took an L already to Salido it was his second fight.

    I don't know if has that kind longevity in him to fight until 30 plus to 40 on wards.

    Like the greats, Marquez, Void and Pac.
     
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  6. Zhuge Liang

    Zhuge Liang Active Member Full Member

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    Are you sure Loma got hurt by Campbell ? I watched the match and rewatched it at least 4x, I don't see Campbell landed a clean big shot on Loma's face or anything that force him to back off. Loma's defensive work against Campbell, in my opinion, is the best from all of his fights. He fought very cautiously and didn't want to be over-aggressive even there was a good chance and the situation was in his favor to finish his opponent.
     
  7. dangerousity

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    Broner doesn’t throw because he don’t want to get hurt. At LW he was a beast because he just mailed everyone.

    Look at him vs demarco. Demarco gave Valero and Linares much tougher fights.

    Put it this way, broner beats tank at LW. Tank has FW power and chin. Broner took guys on like Pac and porter, hurt porter and took their shots.

    There’s a reason broner was so hyped at LW, he was an idiot for moving up and losing that size, power and chin advantage.
     
  8. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, he admitted it, NEXT!

    You watched it 4x and didn't. i saw it live and saw it. You were just orgasm every time Loma landed punches can't see what Luke was landing. I think that;s what happened here. It's that Loma love effect.
     
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  9. Zhuge Liang

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    Hurt him what ? Did Campbell get his chin ? Bleed his nose ? Blacken his eyes ? Fracture his ribs ? Did Campbell get Loma in trouble, cornered and forced to put his double cover up just like Loma did to him ?

    What Loma meant by 'hurted me' in his interview is in general. Campbell has good power to make Loma feel it behind his cover. He felt the pain. But it doesn't mean Campbell damaged him, injured him.
     
  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Like Conor.
     
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  11. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    lol.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He hurt Loma, so Loma decided to spank him for this rest of the round.
     
  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If Tank has featherweight power then why didn`t Manny only have featherweight power, Tank hits harder than Manny did at feather.
     
  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Did Morales really hit with Cambell`s lightweight power though?
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    No way Loma destroys Barrera and beats Morales up the way Pac did in the rematch if he beats them at all.