How Many Heavyweights Do You Consider ATG's

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  1. Tonto62

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    How many heavyweights from Sullivan to today, do you consider were all time greats in that division?
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

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    10.
     
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    And that's including Primo.
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

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    Is the other by any chance Marciano?
     
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    Battling Jim Johnson.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

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    Good shout. Truly underrated.

    Definitely better than Riddick Bowe
     
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    I can see it now.

    'Better all round fighter...'
     
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    Underrated left hand
     
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    Controls the ring.
     
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    The Fight was not a fix
     
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  11. Gazelle Punch

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    ...idk 17 or so. No particular order just listing
    Ali
    Louis
    Marciano
    Liston
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Tyson
    Frazier
    Bowe
    Johnson
    Dempsey
    Holyfield
    Lewis
    Wlad
    Charles
    Jeffries
    Tunney
     
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    Ali
    Louis
    Lewis
    Holmes
    Holyfield
    Foreman
    Dempsey
    Frazier
    Marciano
    That my list of ATGs.
     
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  13. Jel

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    For their work in the heavyweight division alone? 11:

    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Holmes
    4. Johnson
    5. Marciano
    6. Dempsey
    7. Foreman
    8. Tyson
    9. Frazier
    10. Holyfield
    11. Lewis

    Ezzard Charles is my number 12 - transparently an ATG but that factors in his light-heavy years.
     
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  14. Tonto62

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    Care to name them for us ? I would be interested to hear your choices.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    Sure. I'd like to point out that I think more should be (who I'll also list) but I keep the criteria of ATG to top 10 in a given weight class or top 100 pfp.
    So my top 10 HWs are

    Ali
    Louis
    Lewis
    Holmes
    Wlad
    Foreman
    Johnson
    Frazier
    Holyfield
    Liston

    And guys who aren't in my top 10 but I would have as ATGs
    Tyson, Dempsey, Marciano, Schmeling and Patterson
    And I don't think any of them make my top 100.
     
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