He seems to suddenly get erratic in fights, calling his opponent on etc and this is when he's prone to getting clipped He drops his hands, walks in crossing his feet at times when talking to his opponent This may be the guys downfall against Deontay. Can he keep his head?
Said something similar on another thread. Klitschko, Wilder and Wallin have now all clipped him with big shots in the 12th in recent years. There could be excuses like fatigue, being out for 3 years, cuts etc but it gives opponents hope.
Losing that much blood is going to slow you down. He does lose concentration but he slowed dramatically in that 12th on Saturday, I don’t think he had punched himself out, I think the loss of blood was the cause this time round around.
I think this is part of his personality and as such will be hard to fix. Fury is an extrovert, and a natural showman. It's part of what makes him great, but could also prove to be his downfall. He likes to show off and play to the crowd. All well and good but in boxing, especially the heavyweight division of course, it could get him knocked out.
Absolutely true. It actually slipped my mind that Fury probably didn’t see that left hook coming in 12th because of the cut and the blood in his right eye.
I didn't see a concentration loss..?? I saw a bad performance, a man troubled by a nobody. Fury hit Wallin with the hardest shots, with the most venom, I've ever seen him hit a man with... he went balls out, he was angry, pissed off, frustrated... and Wallin was still standing. Fury is overrated as ****. Doesn't deliver.
You could say the same about Whyte v Rivas though pal, I hear what you're saying but I think it's the lack of a real challenge that caused Saturday to go the way it did. Fury does appear to have poor concentration though, he's a bit of an erratic character so it all ties in and makes sense, whether it eventually costs him it remains to be seen as he is very good at what he does.
What do you mean lack of real challenge? So are we admitting here that Fury is telling lies about "Walling is dangerous, young, hungry, undefeated"? Or did he really believe that? Or did he see Wallin as no threat at all and overlook him? Either way Fury has a long list of serious flaws. See Whyte would never underestimate an opponent, ever. That is one of his key attributes.. he gives everyone the full and proper respect and preparation. Never loses focus, like Wilder. But he does make mistakes which is completely normal, life is learning. He tripped himself up against Rivas (wasnt a knockdown) because ha has poor footwork, always crossing the legs when moving laterally. And against Parker in the 12th he chose to get into a dog war when he didnt need to. Those were normal errors, but overlooking your opponent thats a big mistake. Again, Fury looked focused to me, I didn't see a lack of focus, in fact.. I saw more passion from Fury in that fight then I have ever seen. I swear to god, the way Fury put it on Walling from the 7th to the 11th... man he conjured up all his Gypsy strength to hurt Wallin.
I think he totally overlooked him. Expected him to be another Schwartz. Fury said to Steve Bunce last week that he had no idea about Wallin really other than he's a tall southpaw who's awkward and fought a few decent names. The cut got him going, I think he was very angry about this fight - especially when Wallin tried to damage the cut more with his glove. Up until he got cut, he was messing around a bit. Think he definitely overlooked him and Wallin was far better than most people were expecting. On that performance alone, Wallin looked fairly decent - think he's a top 20 guy and would give most of the top 10 an awkward night's work.
Twenty's on the money IMO. Fury and Arum are clearly on a concerted effort to push for a Mexican fanbase and the toe to toe style that attracts it. Whether he deliberately was slack/more toe to toe in the initial rounds or genuinely was befuddled by Wallin who knows, but that cut definitely wasn't part of the strategy. The usual "stick and move" Fury would have coasted to a relatively boring late stoppage or points win but Team Fury inc Davidson know that isn't what appeals to HW boxing fans stateside. I'm not sure what contractual details ESPN have in place but presumably, there's something about a ROI? If the cut wasn't AS BAD it would have worked out beautifully but it's a bit too severe to pretend it may not have any effect going forward.
Yeah Wallin's behaviour on the cut pushed Fury over the edge, Fury wanted to end it immediately to prevent the cut from stopping the fight, and to get Wallin out of there for dirty (understandable) tactics. Top Rank pretty much cherry picking opponents for Fury to look good against, and KO, well it backfired this time, because he looked terrible against an unknown. Wallin giving the top ten hard work remains to be seen, I don't believe this can be said about him yet because Fury clearly is feather fisted. And Wallin was Wallin was hurting Fury but not enough to KO a man who was seing through only one eye given all the blood. Rivas on the hard is defo a top test.. Why? Because I know for a fact Whyte hit him extremely hard with many shots and Rivas while in pain, took it pretty well... and Whyte can bang. Had Wallin taken that level of punishment I might agree he is a tough nights work... but he did take a fair amount of clean shots from Fury, so he is not as bad as I thought he would be.
Fury has never had huge power. Against the likes of Wilder he can afford to adopt a more cautious style - move and jab. Against the likes of Wallin - Schwartz - even Cunningham, he has to be the aggressor - putting on a show of dominance for the US crowd. Only leaves him with the option of becoming a pressure fighter, which isn’t IMO his natural style. He ll revert to type against Wilder & hopefully his superior skills / movement will cause Wilder the same problems.
You also have to take into account that it’s the last round, it’s furys opponents last chance to grab the win knowing they’ve lost on the cards so they’re probably going to throw everything they can and probably something they’ve yet to try an land in the fight up until that point Add that to the fact that fury still isn’t 100% in shape imo those love handles are still wobbling away