Could Wlad Klitschko punch as hard as Deontay Wilder?

You lost me at "ancient."

I'm talking facts, and you just want to throw insults around. Ortiz was a top heavyweight then and he is now. Same as Pulev.

I'd take Ortiz over Pulev right now. Don't act like one is so much better than the other.

And, like I said, Wilder is still in the midst of his career. Wlad's is over.

 

Ortiz is in his 40s, possibly even older. That's ancient for a fighter.

 

Ortiz wasn't "in his 40s" when Wilder knocked him out the first time. And he's not "ancient" now.

If you want to talk about fighters, then let's talk. You know Ortiz isn't some easy out. He wasn't then and he isn't now. The only guys rated above Ortiz (who is now 40) by Ring are Wilder, Fury, Joshua and Ruiz.

So enough already.

I disagreed with your comment about Wlad's power against elite level fighters and said Wlad didn't prove his punching power against the elite level, because he didn't tend to stop them and they tended to knock him down.

What I said was true. Deal with it.

 

I'd agree Fury has a better jab and is more fluid and mobile. Sanders though was blessed with true top tier knockout power. Fury does not seem to have that kind of power. He's more of a slapper, giving up power for speed and fluidity.

As far as Sanders vs Vlad vs Wilder...
Its kind of splitting hairs to say who hits harder. How do you measure that? It's mostly conjecture.

What we can say though is Sanders had enough one punch power to hurt pretty much any human out there if he was able to land his shot clean.

The key word is clean.

We are sometimes missing the point the where a shot lands is very important. An equally powerful shot, landing in two slightly different locations can evoke very different responses.

 

Below is Ortiz in 2005 fighting in a tournament. His age is listed as 26. That was 14 years ago. Do you have proof he's older than 40? Do you have proof he was lying about his age when he was 26?

IF so, post it.

If not, then STFU with your "possibly older" bull. Jesus. Nobody can just talk boxing. It's always about smearing someone.

Age listed at the 2:15:55 mark.

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Like all contemporary punchers Wilders power is SPECTACULARLY over-rated

Ask yourself, what happens if Wladimir Klitschko hits Charlie Zelenoff flush THREE times? Does Zelenoff get up and walk away of his own accord?

Wilder has never knocked out ONE fighter, count them, ONE fighter with a decent reputation for a good chin.

Eric Molina, knocked out in a round by Arreola, took Wilder 7.

Artur Szpilka, knocked out in 3 by that fat polish lad, 2 by Chisora, was floored by a forearm punch from Mike Mollo and was down and almost out against Mariusz Wach, took Wilder 10 rounds

Johann Duhaupas. Wilder must have landed about 100 flush punches on him and couldn't floor him, Povetkin SPLATTERED him out cold with one punch

Fury was knocked down for 7 seconds by Steve Cunningham a light hitting cruiserweight with a forehead punch, Pajkic floored him, Otto Wallin just had him out on his feet, Wilder landed the best shot he ever could and couldn't put him out

Stiverne who looked like he might have spent at least a few days in the gym managed to take him the distance despite eating flush straight right hands all night

Gerald Washington, knocked out in two by the fat polish lad, took Wilder 5

Malik Scott took the most blatant dive I've ever seen

And so on

Anybody saying Wladmimir Klitschko didn't hit as hard as Wilder is ****ing dreaming

Wilders dreadful level of competition can be summed up when Fury said Wilder had never faced a tall opponent and Wilder answered "yes I have, Kelvin Price" A ****ing basketball player

 

Don't ever compare Wilder to Julian Jackson, one is a manufactured record with a good right the hand, the other might very well be the hardest p4p puncher to ever lace on gloves. Jackson put out guys with good chins, Wilder has never even fought one, let alone knocked one out, see my post above

 

Arreola said Stiverne is a harder puncher than Wilder

 

Lol Dominic Breazeale, the guy who gets hurt in every single fight, being a hallmark of durability, Wladimir Klitschki has never polazed a fighter of Breazeales level

 

Sorry say what you want about wilder, he is one of the most Devastating punchers ever.

And him and Jackson and him are EXTREMELY comparable in the way they put people to sleep. Brazeale doesn’t have a good chin? Before the fight that’s what people were saying was his main asset!

I’m from the UK, non bias, wilders right is lethal.

 

I don't care where you're from, the opposition Jackson put to sleep is night and day away from the opposition Wilder has... Read my post breaking down Wilders long list of chinny victims who had already been knocked out before he went life and death with them. How the hell do you get Dominic Breazeale being durable? He's such a dreadful boxer that it may very well be he his best asset but I sawhim rocking and rolling against 4 different opponents and Joshua would had him out on his feet in the 3rd round but the ref stepped in for some reason. Breazeale has fought two top opponents and been knocked out twiceTHATS the standard for Wilder being one of the deadliest hitters in history? He knocked out Dominic Breazeale? So George Foreman has stoppage wins over yhe likes of Joe Frazier and George Chuvalo who arguably has the greatest chin in history... Wilder has Breazeale and Szpilka, oh yes, he definately has Foremanesque power. Name me Wilders most durable opponent other than Charlie Zelenoff, who obviously has a chin of granite considering Wilder ONE OF THE DEALIEST HITTERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD couldn't knock him out. If Ron Lyle , Shavers,or even current day Foreman hit Zelenoff, he would probably never wake up and that's best case scenario

 

Relax. All I’m saying is wilder is, in my opinion, is one of the hardest punchers ever, and if he never had been blessed with the right hand he would never get near a belt.

You have your opinion. Go have a bath and a ciggie. It’s just the internet

 

Why do you think one of the hardest punchers ever couldn't keep Charlie Zelenoff, a mentally ill 150 lb guy who gets beat up by kids, on the floor?

 

Mate. Come on. I’m no wilder fan but I’m not getting into this. Put them in a ring with rules I think we both know a body bag would be required. Peace.

 

I would say wilder is more explosive, but wlad has a very heavy right hand

In fact, I believe Roach has said Wlad is the hardest puncher he has ever held pads for