Bernard Hopkins vs Jake LaMotta at MW

Skilled as in I think b hop had much better timing and reflexes than lamotta and was better at getting his shots off and putting them together in combination and that would win him the fight, lamotta was very easy to hit, not hit clean but still counts on the cards anyways.

 

it is never that simple. There should be an equation where the further back fighters go the higher their odds are regardless of anything else, and then compute it for the real solution. At the same time the guys years ago had a lot of fights, a lot of them didn't have the luxury to just fight amatuer like guys today. Some guys today who are elite have had top amatuer fights in the 100-200 level. Which could be equivalent to some of the guys of years ago fighting many fights. Someone like Ray Robinson had a ridiculous amount of professional fights. Probably the best fighter ever in accomplishments and what he put into boxing.

 

My money would be on the guy that didn't lose for twelve years at middleweight. Bhop was such a versatile fighter that could adapt to whatever strengths his opponents had and completely neutralize them. In my opinion he would due the same to the much smaller Lamotta.

I really hate these kind of comparisons because Lamotta fought in the same day weigh in era and he probably would be more of a jm or ww if he fought today and if Bhop was around in the 40's he would probably compete at light heavy. Yes I know Lamotta finished his career at 175 but again 175 back then is not the same as today. Most LH's today walk around at 190-200 pounds and Jake was only that big when he was retired and blown out drunk in Flordia.

 

Hopkins by decision in a rugged fight.

 

Hopkins by unpopular decision!

 

Jake was a pressure fighter and he got hit but he had some nice skills on the inside. LaMotta threw combinations IMO better than Hopkins. Bernard was better defensively, that was his calling card being a defensive counterpuncher.
It would be an interesting fight. I think the pressure, physical strength, volume punching, infighting skill and iron chin of LaMotta matchup well with Hopkins style.

 

Hopkins Points

 

Only a crazy person would pick Lamotta.

 

Prime for prime LaMotta on points. Besides being one of the more all time pressure fighters it wasnt that simple. He had the jab and head rolling with punches that allowed him to stay in the pocket and not continually have to reset..
I also like Jake's resume more which I'm taking into account also.

 

It's a tough one because Hopkins, at his best, was so commanding as a ring general that it's hard to imagine him being particularly bothered by any style. He was also a big, strong Middleweight.

At the same time, I vaguely remember thinking, at a point when Hopkins' Middleweight reign had become well-established, that he'd often been allowed to set his own pace in fights; not always, but frequently enough to make some of his fights more comfortable than they might have been, had he been pressed a little.

On this basis, I think a skilled opponent, who could deliver sustained pressure, over the distance, was in with more than a good shout. I feel certain Hopkins never faced the kind of harassment that LaMotta would bring and it wasn't like LaMotta just left himself wide open and walked into punches, either. Frustration could play a big part here.

On balance, I think LaMotta could cause enough of a problem to eke out a decision win over Hopkins.

 

^^^^ Pretty much this ^^^^

 

Nice post robert

 

Thanku my pal

 

This,,,Hopkins couldn't control the fight with LaMotta, Jake would be in charge. Not wide 144-142 something like that.

 

That must be because of that Murderer's row Hopkins ran through at 160.