Who Under190lbs Would Be Successful From1970 Onwards?

He beat the number one contender.

 

Fury is a big oaf anyway. We had them from time to time. Maybe he would get as big as 230.
Lewis was about 220 when he started anyway. I guess Lewis would be similar to Max Baer. 205-215.
Bowe? Close to his amateur weight.
Wilder I am not sure he could really exist in any other time but now. He is light by today’s standard..and that’s with what is available now. He might have been one of those guys who never could quite fill out enough to box. Perhaps he would be a basketball guy?
Ruiz could be like Don Cokkell. 205. Or if really got into shape 190.
Ali was a lightheavyweight in the Olympics anyway. He grew quite a bit. I guess after a 20 year career 210 would be his maximum.
Foreman Would weigh no more than 216lb ever. He was under 220 when he met Frazier which kind of proves things. A man that big getting down to that even after things were changing.

 

Sorry, I just thought it read success. A good win though even though he was overweight!

 

Then you should know he has solid wins you dense *******!

 

Fury is very seasoned because he’s been the distance that many times, and for these days, quite unusual that he’s been brought up fighting. He’s not some strong man from another sphere who took up boxing once the science of specialised diets and training allowed giants to become capable as boxers. But physically he is still the same oaf who uppercutted himself.

The rest of the heavyweights don’t really have the same level of expertise as the lower weight classes.

yes and he was less than 219 when he first challenged for the title wasn’t he?

Ali was 199 against Cooper in 1966 having been 210 in 1964. The direction of weight doesn't always get steadily heavier as a career goes on. I am sure you remember the fabulous Orlin Norris? As you well know mr Norris has this ability to explode with muscle and shrink back down again then pump back up throughout his long career, even weighing less for his very last fight than he did for his first one.

 

Ok, lets play this fantasy game:

We time-machine today's top 20 heavyweights back to the 50s, when sub-200 pounders ruled the heavyweight division. We don't pretend they were born into that period, and speculate how big they would/might have been, if that were the case. No, we take them AS THEY ARE today, and drop them down from the sky in 1950 - where they will be fighting under the rules of that time (gloves, 15 rounds).

Are you saying, that they wouldn't be competitive, because they are too big - and therefore wouldn't be able to keep up with the lighter, faster, more skilled boxers of the time?

 

Sorry once again.
I meant on your stipulation 190 or under!

 

That, first of all, is harder to imagine than supposing they were born into that period, then speculate how big they would/might have been isn’t it? For the contrast to work don’t they have to be alive at the same moment?

why not? Isn’t that more logical that they exist together and train in the same period to prepare to fight?

I am saying if they were as heavy in those days (and they were born into that period) they simply wouldn’t make it. Period. But let me acknowledge and answer the actual point you make...that impossibly enhanced fighters from the future are dropped into the 1950s primed and ready to go.. I imagine they still have to adapt to getting hit a lot more than they were used to. With smaller gloves. And whilst they will have strength to brain one of those smaller guys with less blows they won’t have the larger target of a bigger opponent to aim at. If they can control the pace and walk down and maul in the way they are used to, yes they can have success. But those extra rounds and smaller gloves will still take some getting used to. They really will.