Ali`s body v Bugner compared to his body v Williams

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I was checking these fights for the difference in hand speed and was struck by how defined Ali`s body was v Williams compared to how he looked v Frazier (1st fight) and Bugner yet fans have said there wasn`t much weight difference, have people slightly underestimated the gap in Ali`s conditioning between these fights?
     
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  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Wrong forum Mark
     
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  3. Fhaggis

    Fhaggis Active Member Full Member

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    Ali was never timed though? Mind reading he he never lifted weights.

    Maybe he was just “thinner” being younger and filled out more? He was definitely turning to flab right at the end though
     
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  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shouldn't this be in Classic
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    oh jesus I wasn`t focused I could get a permaban now!
     
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  6. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali in the 60s and Ali in the 70s Mark!

    Pretty straight forward analysis.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    But some people on here have said he wasn`t much heavier in the early 70`s.
     
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  8. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Say he was only 10- 15 lbs or so heavier, Ali didn't look after himself as much in the 70s. He got lazier in the gym and enjoyed eating more bad food, like many fighters later in their career.

    His legs had lost some bounce and his body had a little excess fat on it.

    That said, he was still a very impressive athlete.
     
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  9. ronnyrains

    ronnyrains Active Member Full Member

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    He beat Bugner 13-2 , And actually muscled Joe around like he was nothing, FOR THE TITLE, OF COURSE THEY GAVE BUG 2 ROUNDS FOR "SHOWING UP"
     
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  10. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Ali was incredibly strong. People forget about his physical strength.
     
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