Deontay Wilder vs. Muhammad Ali, who wins?

I appreciate your civil tone but don't completely understand this perspective. Ali was in his prime more than a half century ago, and athletes have evolved. What passed for a legitimate HW back then frequently would not do so now.

I would favor Ali but don't see him "crushing" the world class dreadnaughts. He would rely on his speed, agility and guile to hit and not be hit. The worst possible idea for him would be to seek an early KO.

 

Ali was physically gifted and could punch. He had a better ring IQ than wilder or AJ. Wilder is one of the best punchers in boxing but look at how Fury made him look so bad in their fight. I suspect Ali would do similar but would punish him with real punches when Wilder was off balance.

You are right, boxing is different today. These guys don’t have to fight fifteen rounds. Ali would keep AJ or Wilder busy for twelve thirteen rounds and drown them in the deep waters in the 14th or 15th rounds. Of course, one shot from Wilder could end things for any fighter. I’m just saying I don’t think he would land it on a guy as slick as Ali.

These discussions are an invitation for arguments because we will never know. I could be giving the hero’s of my youth too much credit. It’s unavoidable. Kind of like the Jordan Lebron arguments. I’m from Chicago so it’s impossible for me to be objective on that one.

 

wherever this fight took place, a GPS scan would reveal that Wilder is on the part of the planet directly opposite.

 

Although I think I posted on this thread month's back.....

A brilliant once in a lifetime boxer against a freak athlete with **** coordination and timing plus devastating power.

I choose the former.

 

Muhammad Ali of the 1966 Cleveland Williams fight would have out classed the wild swinging Wilder. Ali did not intimidate, Sonny Liston tried, but to no avail, Ali's mind games would leave Wilder in frustration and tears. No Rope A Dope here, just superb foot work and speed, the Ali shuffle. Ali wins as Wilder cut and bleeding stays on his stool in round 10.

 

wilder would never have landed his right on peak ali even once.

 

Wilder landed some good counter jabs v Fury, while Liston didn`t throw any counter jabs v Ali.

 

Ali had the greatest chin in boxing history and knew what to do when hurt.

 

Usyk is a southpaw though.

 

Ali beat two southpaws in his career, Karl Mildenberger, TKO12 on Sept 10 1966, in Frankfurt Germany, and Richard Dunn, on May 24 1976, TKO 5, Munich, Germany. Both fights were televised and can be found on the internet. He did have difficulty with Mildenberger in the early going, but figured him out to score three knockdowns in the fight, leading to a stoppage by referee Teddy Waltham.

 

Obvious answer is that the fight wouldn't happen. Wilder would demand 300 million.

He'd say he has unfinished business with Luis Ortiz. Or Ali would test positive for PEDs 3 days before the fight.

 

Ali was not a drug user, but I do agree that Wilder would make that demand to get out of that fight, Ali was a fighting champion in 1966. He gave everybody a chance. He said after all his fights, that his contracts contained No Return Bout clauses, in order to give everybody a chance, unlike today. He also said win or lose, no rematches. Trilogies are fine, but sometimes it is like watching a rerun on television.

 

Clay at his best would school Wilder. Clay was a master boxer who would take advantage of Wilder's technical shortcomings.

Wilder has a punchers chance but Clay would be on his game, not be there to be hit and would punish Wilder.

Picture a better, more disciplined Fury.

 

I do agree on this outcome.

 

Get ****ed