Your twelve favourite fighters of all time - but read the OP

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  1. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This weeks list
    1. Carlos Zarate just incredible. Detractors are agenda driven and you really should question their capacity to understand boxing.
    2. El Mano" Jose Maria Gatica an Argentino of great excitement. Have a good movie about him.
    3. Kid LaVigne. Read the great book "Muscles and Mayhem" about him. Maybe the best boxing bio ever.
    4. Roberto Duran just a lightweight monster.
    5. Cyclone Hart. Saw him spar often and he was just a gym killer.
    6. Tom Sharkey just a tough mother****er. Manhood a few generation out of the cave.
    7. Billy Petrolle his fight vs. Battalino would be worth mucho dinero for me. He ran Justo Suarez back to the Argentine w/ his left hook.
    8. Gunboat Smith. Would love a biography of this super interesting man. Entire life.
    9. Bummy Davis- read "The Brownsville Bum" and you'll know why. Have huge picture display of Davis and fights in the bar in my house.
    10. Joe Walcott just a great savage fighter
    11. George KO Chaney. Super interesting fighter in the early 20th century
    12. Bazooka Limon. Favorite style. Unbreakable in his prime. Body crushing monster . His crushing of favorite son Frankie Baltazar ranks as one of my favorite wins over a primadonna ever. Right there withe great Hamsho over gutless Czyz.
     
  2. robo

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    Usyk
    Chavez jr
    Gatti
    Toney
    Fury ( Tyson)
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Fair enough, i'll give it a spin.

    01 - Charley Burley. Burley was the first "mysterious" fighter I ever got into and he is the guy who got me into deep dives, trying to learn about fighters as historical figures and share that information. He's still probably the definitive fighter for me in terms of his "thinking" style, of being smart. He was also enormously committed to a style and I love and respect that. He did it right rather than changed up for cash.

    02 - Midget Wolgast. Just genius, different, a fighter that found another path. There's something fascinating about dead-end technical fighters, guys who due to physical and mental make-up mined a dead end in boxing technique that was never revived. Roy Jones, Jimmy Wilde, Midget, these guys fought in a style that was unrepeatable and where guys who tried got Ko'd. Also absolutely fearless and would fight anyone, all the way up through the weights.

    03 - Juan Manuel Marquez. This is a guy who, like Burley, found the "right" way to do things, ducked by Morales and Barrera when all that was going on, toiled in obscurity, then landed the dance partner everyone wanted for making money and got routinely mauled on the scorecards in matching him. I thought he won II and III. But Marquez was too furious to quit and too furious to keep to the style he'd nurtured so he changed up to become more popular and eventually to get that win over Manny, which was as astonishing a KO as I've ever seen. Survived mis-management, survived Pacquiao, it's one of the great arcs of our sport and his first victory of Juan Diaz remains one of my very favourite fights.

    04 - Roman Gonzalez. He's kind of ended up on the wrong side of history a bit and it's ending with a whimper rather than a bang but for a while there he was a monster. Eight punch combos that were pure liquid, a puncher below 115, rather terrifying. Impossible to run from and almost impossible to out-fight. As complete a fighter as has practised in my lifetime.

    05 - Holman Williams. Another one who would fight anybody, another kind of mysterious guy, another one who put his style through some changes, in this case due to bad hands. Crazy resume, brilliant general.

    06 - Joe Louis. Nobody did it better probably from a technical punching perspective. It's the power, but the way he generates it never fails to impress me. Doesn't matter how many times you see it.

    07 - Dick Tiger. He was unbrawlable, don't you know.

    08 - Chucho Castillo. "He would fight a bull with a fork."

    09 - Naoya Inoue. Been obsessed with this guy since his second fight when he was an emaciated light-fly. Recent spate of believers in Doinaire is weird, Inoue will clatter him. Then on to better and possibly bigger things.

    10 - Tyson Fury. Marmite where this guy is concerned, but I love him, love the background story, love the lunatic moments in the ring, love that his preposterous stylings are finding their way to the top of the division. Been a bit of a bumfight recently, but the cut will heal up, he'll fight Wilder again and then we'll find out once and for all presumably.

    11 - Oleksander Usyk. I followed Usyk from the ams and it's been an absolute delight to watch his special kind of boxing florurish all the way up to heavyweight. I predicted he'd be the guy to beat AJ, that's obviously been done already, but I still think there's an opportunity for the guy to make an enormous splash. It helps that he's really funny.

    12 - Ivan Calderon. I know how it sounds, but his is one of the few career sets I own. He was just a Rolls Royce of a fighter, brilliant little operator, so hard to hit, so hard to hurt. Then he just went wildly off a cliff and that's when I knew I loved him because it just broke my heart.
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lmfao!
    Great 12 and good post. I would like 12 fav fights and why. But 15. Champs field
     
  5. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    You've missed the point of these lists. It's your 'favourite' fighters - not a discussion on relative greatness. Logically, there are no wrong answers here! You could put Jamie Moore or Colin Dunn on your list and it would be right because it's utterly subjective.
     
  6. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Great post.

    I love Midget Wolgast. My wish is that there was more footage of him. Really pissed me off the Zurita bout got taken down.

    As you said, dead end, bebop type fighters are amazing and interesting. Tony Canzoneri is my favourite.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well this was kind of actually the point of this thread, to find some other ideas where i'll do a delete on any wayward posts. Maybe we'll do twelve favourite fights next.
     
  8. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    I would have put money on Frank 'The Animal' Fletcher being on your list!
     
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  9. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    In no order
    Duran
    Dempsey
    Ali
    Greb
    Robinson
    Williams Ike
    Corrales
    Arguello
    Holmes
    Louis
    Foster Bob
    Fitzsimmons
    Something like that.
     
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Love his style like that of no other. The way he could stay busy behind the jab and on the feet the whole time while still slipping and countering incoming punches... Try to do something similar in sparring but it's just so hard.
     
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  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3rd fav after Roberto and Dempsey but lately these 12 really intetest me.
     
  12. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    Good, glad I asked.
     
  13. Clean & Crisp

    Clean & Crisp RockIsTheThing-LifeHasNoMeaning&MoneyIsKing Full Member

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    J. Toney
    R. Bowe
    S. Mosley
    M. Cotto
    G .Golovkin
    T. Fury
    L. Holmes
    O. Usyk
    S. Liston
    E. Morales
    M. Tyson
    J. Napoles

    The fighting styles and personalities vary but for whatever reasons these are the 12 fighters I always find myself either rooting for, revisiting fights or just happen to like the cut of their jib.
     
  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Til he got beaten by Young Corbett II

    It was down hill QUICK from there
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yeah, the best fighters are the ones who instinctively use the direction they move to avoid a punch as leverage to pivot back with the counter. Like it’s one movement. It’s really hard to do it and make it look so damn smooth.
     
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