Is anyone here old enough to remember Frazier losing the title to Foreman?

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  1. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd be interested to know what kind of impact it had at the time.

    Whenever I watch the fight, I make a conscious decision to remind myself that the guy being annihilated is the undefeated Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    I can't think of any other occasion where a very good World Champion has been beaten so emphatically. Anyone watching it must have been astonished at what they were seeing.
     
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  2. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No but Frazier was the original buster douglas
     
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  3. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How do you mean?
    I'm not sure that's a fair comparison!
     
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  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I'd have said Foreman was more a Douglas, beating a unbeaten, dominate champ. Thu that could also apply to Ali, who beat an unbeaten dominant champ..
     
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  5. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But you said Frazier was the original Buster Douglas.

    Even so, I still think it's unfair to compare Foreman to Douglas.

    Foreman completely obliterated the World Champion, Douglas didn't.

    Foreman was undefeated with a very impressive KO record when he challenged for the World Title, Douglas wasn't.

    Foreman, for a time, had an aura of invincibility. Douglas never did.
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    No Dave I didn't say it mate, it was the other fella.
     
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  7. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember it well, I actually followed Foreman's career to that date and fancied him but the manner astonished me. Looking back now the ref was terrible, bit like Wlad and Povetkin, probably wouldn't affect the outcome but completely favoured one fighters style.
     
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  8. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep.

    Lost money gambling on that one. Nobody thought Joe could get destroyed like that. He might lose, but never a destruction.
     
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  9. christpuncher

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    Liston - Patterson
     
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  10. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, you're quite right.

    P.S. I prefer David :)
     
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  11. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier was looked upon as unbeatable after his heroic effort vs Ali in 71 and his obliteration of the leading contenders up until that point. Foreman’s effort was akin to Dempsey destroying Willard.
     
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  12. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a good example of a champion getting pulverised but I don't think it's as notable as Frazier vs Foreman as it wasn't the first time Patterson was pulverised.

    And Patterson couldn't take a punch like Frazier. He was even floored when defending his title against a guy making his professional debut!
     
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  13. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was Willard ever looked upon as unbeatable?
     
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  14. Fergy

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    No worries David..
     
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  15. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes absolutely.
     
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