At least he’d walk across the street to watch them fight. If only we could get this same kind of passion when it’s the old school fighter getting the same treatment.
Dempsey-Willard and Sharkey-Carnera started playing in my head when you said all that The only 2 differences at that Marciano is better than Sharkey and Dempsey, and Pulev is worse than Willard (perhaps better than the past prime version Dempsey fought) and Carnera For a more recent one see Valuev vs Haye. Diminishing returns for weight advantage
Also: And the most outrageous one yet: And from another boxing forum: "Coetzee was a nothing. Tate was a nothing."
Surely he will get booted soon. He has no place on any boxing forum with his attitude towards, good, honest pro's. The man is a Walter Mitty and it's encouraging to see a lot of comments on this thread are in agreement.
I agree with all of this. However, I don't understand why this would make him a sub-nothing - surely there's a lot of distance between being less than nothing and one of the ten best at an activity in your class in all of the world? Surely there's a lot of distance between 11th/7,000,000,000 and less than nothing? What i'm asking you is what Ustinov's status would have been in an era you deem worthy of admiration, not what he wouldn't have been.
Oh give us a break! Marciano is better than Dempsey? Highly debatable! Pulev is worse than Willard and Carnera?GTF!
He looked beater against a fat 37 years old exiled Johnson? He was behind after 20rds!He just outlasted the older, poorer conditioned man.
Was going to say Haye v Valuev lol all throughout history you see it. Frazier v Buster is another one.
Anything to take Marciano down a few pegs. I’ll never understand the vile hatred for such a great champ. And some will say it’s not “hatred” but look at the size? Well other past greats don’t get this treatment. Where they look at every little hiccup of a career. No one ever mentions that ali was almost sparked by a 186 pound man and would have been had his corner not bailed him out. No one points out the dubiousness of other champs defenses as a knock on them. It’s an absolute joke and something you’d think wouldn’t occur on a classic forum site. And Ali shouldn’t be criticized for that it’s boxing in the HW division especially. Anyone can have a bad night. No one is invincible and no ones record is perfect. But to say marciano couldn’t beat this C fighter is a waste of time to even argue. Just feeding the trolls at this point. There have been several ATGs at his height this shouldn’t even be a debate.