Tyson Fury - Overrated, underrated or somewhere in between?

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Fair enough, I apologies, I respect the notion that you can like a post even if you dont agree with it.

    I take what I said back about assuming you liked his content. I made a mistake.

    But Whyte delivers, it's not like I am hyping a product that hasnt turned over huge numbers, and delivers maximum entertainment that will go down int he record books, or a product that hasnt continously suprised the living **** out everyone on here that bets against Whyte.

    Whyte delivers eeverytime, puts on the best performances, best shows, fights the best guys for no titles, most improved, stays dedicated hasnt run away from the sports, wants to learn, evolve, adapt, comes to risk in trading blow for blow, etc etc.

    He fights for the fans, he makes memories. The crowd asked for chisora rematch, Whyte responded directly and made it happen. When has Fury listened to the fans?

    Yeah thats what I thought.
     
  2. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Absolutely. When he really planted his feet against Wallin it became obvious everything with Fury is an arm punch. There was no torque or trigger from his hips or core. They barely moved (wobbled) but didn’t fire off the punches.
     
  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    So you are saying the Gypsy King, the man born into a fighting family, from a lineage of irish fighting men does not know how to power punch?

    He doesn't know how to throw a hard punch? Or to use max power? A professional boxer like Fury?

    If it ain't in his Gypsy fighting blood genes to figure it out, no one taught him? Like his trainer? How hard is it to learn to punch hard? No one taught me? I figured it out?
     
  4. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have never hyped up Whyte?! ahh ok the argument could end there. Whyte is custom built for Tyson IMO. Fury would jab his head off, Whyte is too small for Fury IMO. He could hurt Fury clearly but common sense tells you that Fury jabs and leans on Whyte all night to a point victory.

    it doesnt take 10k hours to get good at something, I know the theory your hitting there but that is for an average person it was assumed. There will be guys naturally talented and genetically gifted that this would not apply to.

    If you cant see when Jurgens tongue is firmly in his cheek then there isnt a lot that can be done for you. he is trolling using a different method to you.
     
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  5. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    again there are levels of power when it comes to "power" punching, also if you have an ounce of knowledge in knowing how different muscle fibres can affect different motor mechanics of the body then you would also realise that genetics play almost as big a part in generating power as technique and timing does.
     
  6. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah so then he is a feather fist, why are people saying thats going to change by sitting on his punches, he has already tried that, and nothing happened.

    He is a genetic feather fisted pillow. If you look at his genetic profile it will say goose feather 10 tog.
     
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  7. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    How highly do you rate Wilder? A still recovering Fury made Wilder look very basic and in my view with fair judging would be the current WBC champion, given AJ's defeat to Ruiz jr that would make him the current number one.

    He's a huge man and can look ungainly and the quality of his performances seems to vary according to the opponent. He doesnt appear to have massive power, that said, he has a wider range of skills than his peers.

    I have him current number one.
     
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  8. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury is embarrassingly overrated.
     
  9. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think we all need to move on from whether Fury is overrated or underrated, and focus on the far more important matter of how tall he is.

    https://www.celebheights.com/s/Tyson-Fury-49113.html

    The Vaughn debacle was embarrassing for a man with aspirations to be 6'9'', but the suggestion is that he was barefoot at the time which would go some way to explaining it.

    I walked past the great man himself a few years ago. He's a big bugger that's for sure, but he also does have some shitty posture. At times he looked the same height as Wlad, and others significantly taller. I'd say he's probably 6'8'' if he's standing upright; 6'7'' is an absolute minimum based on how tall he can look at times.
     
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  10. delboy82

    delboy82 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did he punch you? then you have no idea if nothing happened. First of all you are writing of a fairly young and fresh fighters chin, to flip this the other way Whyte couldnt KO AJ whose chin is less than stellar...... Who is to say that Wallin didnt feel those punches or like I said who is to say that Wallin doesnt have a helluva chin on him.

    He might not be a noted power puncher Fury but I have seen him hurt other fighters and there where times in the Wallin fight that I could see he was buzzed. To me Fury seems to have more slow twitch muscle fibres than fast twitch fibres which would explain why he seems to be better when it comes to stamina and endurance over explosive power the complete opposite of say Wilder/AJ and to an extent Whyte.
     
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  11. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Yes, since Joshua lost I’ve also rated Wilder as number 1.. a frightening puncher, but someone who is very limited, technically awful at times and someone who has been outboxed on a few occasions before his power has bailed him out. But at 41-0-1 (40 KO) with 9 successful title defences he gets my vote. I honestly believe he damaged Fury physically and mentally in their fight (which I had a Fury winning) and that the rematch will be quick and brutal.
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Whyte can do 12 rounds no problem, and can carry his power all the way through. So dont act like Whyte is fast twitch and blows his load early in fights.

    No one denies Chisora has a great engine for a man his size, and he was in the shape of his life in the rematch and pushed the pace hard. Whyte carried KO power into the 11th.

    Stop trying hard to justify Fury's power. He doesn't have it. AJ less than stellar chin? Whyte has KOd and floored granite chin behemoths with his hooks, and AJ took it well by staying up right, he also took Wlads hardest shot, Dr Iron Fist, who has plenty of KOs and is known for power... he also took Ruiz shots after a serious concussion and still got up without going to sleep.

    AJ has a perfect chin, because it has been tested by the young and the strong.

    You people are unbelievable.
     
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  13. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah exactly, I am long time user of that website celeb heights, and have always had a weird obsession and fascination with heights.

    I know Fury has bad posture, but he is definitely between 6'8 and 6'9.
     
  14. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't understand why you post about Fury more than anything else when you clearly despise him - what's the motivation?

    Who punches harder, you or Fury?
     
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  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    We can measure our power on a scientifically proven and designed force meter by powerkube, more than happy to take the test. We can compare actually figures and then compare pound for pound seeing as Fury is 10 inches taller than me and about 60 pounds heavier.