Tyson Fury - Overrated, underrated or somewhere in between?

Never the same? How did he survive 10 000 haymakers from Rivas and Chisora then who put out Takam Spilka and Jennings?

Yep you are in the low side of intelligence aint you

 

Och you know what I'm done with u son, I ha e always given u the benefit of the doubt. But u continue to make a bellend of yourself.

Did I say whyte blows his load, no I didn't. I consider him more of an explosive fighter than than a high workload, on his toes high stamina fighter. If whyte truly was a stamina based fighter he wouldn't have gassed trying get AJ out when he hurt him. AJ was there for the taking just like the ruiz fight.

I made no mention of chisora and his workrate so have no idea why you brought that up. I never said whyte gasses after early rounds. I merely said he is prob from a physiological stance has more fast twitch fibres than some other fighters.

But like I said I'm done with u, no wasting a second more on u. You are a complete fan boy so biased in your views that its impossible to have a reasonable debate with you on pretty much any boxing subject. I'm done defending you, replying to you.

Your no different than the manny and Floyd fanboys blowing smoke out their own asses and worshipping someone that can do no wrong beyond any logic. It was just a month ago u sounded like u were gonna top yourself over whyte's A sample.

I like whyte, he is usually in great fights and well worth his money but ur so blind to see that people on here will associate him with u and think less of him due to the way u post on here, so you are actually hurting his reputation rather than enhancing it. You of course will ignore this and fail to recognise what I am saying so it's kinda a moot point.

C ya

 

He gets hurt all the time now. Helenius, Chisora, Parker, Rivas all wobbled him. AJ cracked that chin.

 

It's heavyweight, any chin can crack, whyte is just among the best chins in heavy.

 

Your our resident wind up merchant on here Jurgen. Your the old guy sitting on his porch on his rocking chair telling the world it ain't as good as it used to be chief.

 

The Heavyweight Division certainly falls into that category mate - Butterbean never became World Heavyweight Champion in the good old days.

Did not have to worry about being mugged for the phone either - the fookers would have to take the entire Red Phone Box.

 

He is over rated based on his top 5 career wins that is for sure

1. Wlad Klitsckho (38-39 years old and way over the hill)
2. Dereck Chisora x2
3. Christian Hammer
4. Steve Cunningham
5. John McDermott x2

His resume just doesnt justify the kind of praise he gets.

A concern is that he is content to face extremely poor opponents consistently.

 

What about wilder tho...who was mooted as the most dangerous heavyweight on the planet. Not only that but fury went to his backyard....after a three year lay off without the necesary preparation fights for it. He also did the same with klitchko. I m struggling to see how a guy that fought klitchko and wilder away from home probably gonna rematch him next...is a guy that takes on poor opponents consistantly. Furys needed poor opposition after his three year lay off ballooning in weight etc. Its the rest of them that need to up their game. Barring probably whyte, parker and chisora. Who are taking decent fights.

Wilder, ortiz even joshua are at the kidding the most. Joshua always home ref, home advantage. Judges in the pocket. Klitchko was great from him and parker tbf....but both at home. Klitchko already been beat easy from fury away from home plus he was 42. Went over for ruiz but ruiz was seen as an easy win by most including himself by the looks of it. Good cv joshua but it has all been in his favour. Him and wilder should have fought by now.

 

We have to accept the official scoring system, but personally I don't believe a 10-8 round does justice to a fighter who almost knocks someone through the canvas. That 12th round 1-2 and flattening of Fury was one of the sweetest things I have ever seen. It's difficult to knock Wilder too much - the guy is a shade over 15 stone against monsters. Even Joseph is 17 stone and he doesn't look massive.

 

I listed his top 5 wins.

Wilder isn’t there because the fight result was a draw.

With enough doubt based on Wilder dropping him twice.

Look at the quality of opponents in his top 5 wins and tell me that isnt a fighter who takes on poor opponents consistently.

 

You think Tyson Fury’s dubious mental health protestations are in any way comparable with Ali and racism? That’s an absolutely laughable comparison!

‘Transcended boxing and entered the mainstream?’ Behave. Ali was the most famous sportsman alive and is the most famous sportsman of all time. Fury’s been on Joe Rogan.

 

Morning sweet cheeks!

Only dubious to a very small minority and yes, mental health is a hugely important subject that impacts on all races and all walks of life yet there is still a stigma associated with discussing it.

Have a good day!

 

I was always one to kinda gloss over it also, mainly cos its something I have never had any personal experience of it. I think that why a lot of people fail to relate to it. But I lost a good friend last month to suicide. He was living in Holland and been over there for about 5 years now, turns out that he has been thinking that he was being stalked by someone all the time and had installed cctv all over his house and stuff. His friends told me that his reality was not actual reality. I didnt know a thing about any of this as none of his friends over there thought it would be helpful to let any of his family or that know back home he was going through this. I had messaged him a few times and he hadn't replied, I feel terrible for not going over just to visit him over the last year or so. Then was told he hanged himself, still feel guilty for not being there for him or just forcing him to get in contact with me.

 

Sorry to hear about your friend, bud. I’ve lost 2 childhood friends to suicide over the years. I also had no idea what they were going through. I bet many of us on here have similar stories. So if one of the biggest, loudest, most charismatic fighters on the planet wants to raise the awareness of it, then brilliant.

 

Wilder needs a trainer the level of Futch or Steward. Imo that's when he becomes top heavyweight in the world.

It bothers me that Fury doesn't seem to step into his punches much (I'm trying to recall how many times I've seen full torso-hip rotation and coming up blank...but I'm pretty blank in general so nevermind me!).

He can still hurt people so I guess his size really has a lot to do with it. Whatever wins....

@Aydamn I like your posts whether I agree with them or not because I often find something well written and/or well thought out in them. You also are a good writer and can be engaging to read.

I like anyone's posts that have those qualities. People could be dumping on Larry and I'll like them if they meet the above criteria lol.